What good is an engineer?...

Engineers come to me to ask if certain GD&T callouts are legal or I need to explain what it means.

At least he was honest with you. Most engineers prefer to just pretend that they know what GD&T is. Fake it 'til you make it...right?

Is it friday at 430 yet?

T minus eight hours until beer and pizza

Real programmers have a flask at their desk ;-)

Real programmers have there bottle.

Being an engineer, I find threads like this a bit disconcerting - yes, an engineering degree is a tool box, a vast tool box, it also teaches you how to learn, how to get information and how to handle that information 'the scientific way'. It is not a detailed course in every aspect of reality. Then it is up to the individual if he/she continues to learn new things or not. Standards are there to be read, data to be analysed, drawings to be revised. I'd go so far as saying it's the responsibility of an employer to make sure people learn the necessary things for their particular job.

I started as a computer programmer, nothing to do with GD&T, but when I came to C.E. Johansson to be part of the development team there, the company made sure I went through all the relevant courses that were necessary for the job - GD&T of course, reading a print, but also the 'old, traditional' methods for measuring hands on - even though I would still only program computers.

Not sure of what I write... I've been told that "engineer" has not the same meaning in US than in Europe.
Here (in France), it's 5 years mini after a bachelor.
Like Anders said, an engineer learns a lot of things, more or less specialized, and should learn reflecting.
He should have a well-made head rather than a full one !!!!!
In my case, I think I use less than 10 percents of what I learned... And I can only say about my head that there is not much hair on it... and I hope no one inside

Boat anchors....

It's all in good fun, at least on my end. I was in a Mechanical Engineering program, until Calculus kicked my butt. And, I've worked with many awesome, intelligent, on-the-ball engineers, and then I came to automotive... where engineer apparently means something different. It seems to be a term just handed out to anyone without any real consideration for training, knowledge, schooling, etc.

AndersI isn't Johansson the Swedish dude that invented the J-Block? JEFMAN you're French, have you met anyone with the last name Sapiens?

VinniUSMC I spent time in a company where even the broom closet man would get an engineer's tittle, it really lost it's meaning to me while there I even skipped the opportunity to go to school for a degree thru their school reimbursement program! Having an Engineering title there was truly an embarrassment. I've cleared my head and have switched jobs and I think I have discovered the real meaning of an engineer and I am reconsidering going to college but don't know for what...

JEFMAN you're French, have you met anyone with the last name Sapiens?

Of course, when I was young... but I'm unable to remember his first name !
Some years later, I learned the Golden Ration with Toutankhamon...