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new home pc for gaming and solidowrks

Hi Everyone

Not sure who, if anyone is into gaming here but I am looking to replace my ageing i7 950 system to something up to date and modern with nice shiny DDR4 ram and an SSD.

was just wondering if there is anyone here who has upgraded there pc recently perhaps to a ryzen? if so what do you think to it? I have also seen that there is yet another generation of intel's i7 coming out next month which may be a contender to be the heart of my new pc.

just looking for peoples thoughts on the matter.

B,T&D

  • I just built a system in March, i7-7700, GTX 1070, bunch of other stuff, that I use for gaming and Solidworks.

    Thought I'd be good with a 250gb SSD and a 2tb 7200, bought another 500gb SSD a couple months later. If you'r looking at one of the m2 ssds do a lot of research, I see a lot of incompatibilities/space issues out there.

    I really don't like my case, so I'm going to swap that out over the winter, prolly add 32gb ram (I have 16 now) when I do.

    I briefly considered Ryzen, but decided against it for no real reason. Keep in mind, though, IIRC the Ryzen doesn't have on board graphics, so if you have an issue with your graphics cards you need to scramble.

    The i9 looks interesting, 10 core(20?), whatever it is it's just sick, but it's also running about $1k. I seem to recall the performance difference isn't huge, though.

    For the rig I have, I'm having no issues (other than the power cable to the mobo works itself free now and then), everything I run is full graphics settings.
  • Screw Intel. Overpriced crap. The new AMD should be insane. I'm running an AMD FX-9590, and it's pretty amazing (with liquid cooling). I wouldn't recommend it though, compared to the newer stuff. It draws more power (220W), and will overheat without proper cooling.

    If you go AMD, definitely go with Radeon for GPU. DDR4 is nice, but DDR3 with an AMD is still powerful. It looks like the Ryzen does finally support DDR4 though, so it's probably worth it if you go with a Ryzen.

    If you really want top of the line, go with a PCI-E SSD, not a standard SATA SSD.

    I haven't had a board with onboard GPU in, well, since the first computer that I ever bought (not built). If you're building there's no point in worrying about onboard GPU, when you're going to be putting in a monster GPU anyways. The only time you should want a CPU/GPU (at least with current technology) is for a mobile device, or where power consumption is an issue.
  • My FX-9590 8-core is sick, and was less than $300. Wink
  • My comment about the on board graphics wasn't that you want to use it, but that it's there. If you lose your graphics card with AMD, your options are limited.

    AMD/Intel is like Chevy/Ford, iPhone/Android, whatever else puts people into unnecessary camps.
  • There are (older) AMD integrated CPUs, but more likely you'll have a mobo that has onboard graphics (on the lower end mobos, or laptops mostly). In either case, someone building a gaming computer doesn't/shouldn't care about either. Sorry, I was mixing up integrated CPU/GPU and onboard GPU. Either case though, is sub-optimal.

    I have 2 GPUs, and several older generations laying around. But if a GPU goes, It's probably time to overhaul the system anyways, lol. Slight smile

    AMD does have integrated chips on the horizon though. Not that I would wait for them.
  • Oh, as an aside, I forgot, I'm building another computer this week.

    Bought a raspberry pi, hope to spend some time with it the next couple weeks.

    And one other thing, if you need a new monitor, and you're Amazon prime, there's a 23" HD 2ms Asus available, I got 2 for $75 each.
  • I was looking at the 7700K but I saw the new 8700K was on the horizon. But then you get the AMD chips which just seem to have more bang for your buck as they say.

    I like my case (NZXT switch 810) Only thing I don't like is that it is huuuugggeee. I bought it so I could water cool everything, which I could do and it was easy to install everything. But now it just seems too big for my needs. I would love one of those thermaltake P5's, if you havnt seen them they are more or less completely open or if you get the glass panels, just full glass so you can see everything.
  • I have all the parts to liquid cool except the new cpu block which I would need. If I went intel I probably wouldn't be able to afford it.

    Also being from the UK we like to support the underdog, and a big part of me wants to go AMD just so its not intel.

    I don't think I would be disappointed with Ryzen, you can get a 6 core with hyper threading for less than $200 (I say $ cos the £ these days is more or less the same). That's a big saving that I can maybe add a bigger SSD or I have my eye on a monoblock for the CPU and motherboard not just a CPU water block. Expensive though.
  • If you're looking at a regular 125W AMD CPU, a full water cooling system is unnecessary (unless you are building a ridiculous system). My 220W CPU is using only a CPU waterblock and it's been more than enough.

    Other than the power draw, I would highly recommend my CPU. You can get basically the same chip, just not supercharged, in the 8350. Which is still an "8 core" (yeah, not physical 8 core) chip, just running at 4.0 Ghz instead of 4.7. And that puts it back down to a 125W chip, for $130. So, it's last gen, but definitely powerful (although, reading reviews just now, it looks like liquid cooling is still recommended).

    But, going up to the $200 range you can get a Ryzen 5 1600 6-core, and that would be more powerful, faster, run cooler, and allow for DDR4. (And not require a PSU with extra 8 pin for the CPU... lol).

    Also, AMD is better than intel, until you get up into the extremely ridiculous zone, for $1000+. I might get to take that back. It looks like the new Ryzen Threadripper might have taken the crown. Slight smile
  • I just like to water cool the cpu as you can turn the fans down super low, so very little noise. Plus you can still do this most of the time with a modest overclock on the CPU. And it also looks pretty cool ha.

    The thing I like about AMD is that they often use there motherboard chipsets for 3-4 years where as intel change them every single time they bring a new cpu out. So in theory I can by an entry level ryzen and in a few years time I can buy the upgrade cpu and just stick it straight in there with no issues.