new home pc for gaming and solidowrks

Screw Intel. Overpriced crap. The new AMD should be insane. I'm running an AMD FX-9590, and it's pretty amazing (with liquid cooling). I wouldn't recommend it though, compared to the newer stuff. It draws more power (220W), and will overheat without proper cooling.

If you go AMD, definitely go with Radeon for GPU. DDR4 is nice, but DDR3 with an AMD is still powerful. It looks like the Ryzen does finally support DDR4 though, so it's probably worth it if you go with a Ryzen.

If you really want top of the line, go with a PCI-E SSD, not a standard SATA SSD.

I haven't had a board with onboard GPU in, well, since the first computer that I ever bought (not built). If you're building there's no point in worrying about onboard GPU, when you're going to be putting in a monster GPU anyways. The only time you should want a CPU/GPU (at least with current technology) is for a mobile device, or where power consumption is an issue.

Screw Intel. Overpriced crap. The new AMD should be insane. I'm running an AMD FX-9590, and it's pretty amazing (with liquid cooling). I wouldn't recommend it though, compared to the newer stuff. It draws more power (220W), and will overheat without proper cooling.

If you go AMD, definitely go with Radeon for GPU. DDR4 is nice, but DDR3 with an AMD is still powerful. It looks like the Ryzen does finally support DDR4 though, so it's probably worth it if you go with a Ryzen.

If you really want top of the line, go with a PCI-E SSD, not a standard SATA SSD.

I haven't had a board with onboard GPU in, well, since the first computer that I ever bought (not built). If you're building there's no point in worrying about onboard GPU, when you're going to be putting in a monster GPU anyways. The only time you should want a CPU/GPU (at least with current technology) is for a mobile device, or where power consumption is an issue.

My comment about the on board graphics wasn't that you want to use it, but that it's there. If you lose your graphics card with AMD, your options are limited.

AMD/Intel is like Chevy/Ford, iPhone/Android, whatever else puts people into unnecessary camps.

There are (older) AMD integrated CPUs, but more likely you'll have a mobo that has onboard graphics (on the lower end mobos, or laptops mostly). In either case, someone building a gaming computer doesn't/shouldn't care about either. Sorry, I was mixing up integrated CPU/GPU and onboard GPU. Either case though, is sub-optimal.

I have 2 GPUs, and several older generations laying around. But if a GPU goes, It's probably time to overhaul the system anyways, lol.

AMD does have integrated chips on the horizon though. Not that I would wait for them.

I have all the parts to liquid cool except the new cpu block which I would need. If I went intel I probably wouldn't be able to afford it.

Also being from the UK we like to support the underdog, and a big part of me wants to go AMD just so its not intel.

I don't think I would be disappointed with Ryzen, you can get a 6 core with hyper threading for less than $200 (I say $ cos the £ these days is more or less the same). That's a big saving that I can maybe add a bigger SSD or I have my eye on a monoblock for the CPU and motherboard not just a CPU water block. Expensive though.

If you're looking at a regular 125W AMD CPU, a full water cooling system is unnecessary (unless you are building a ridiculous system). My 220W CPU is using only a CPU waterblock and it's been more than enough.

Other than the power draw, I would highly recommend my CPU. You can get basically the same chip, just not supercharged, in the 8350. Which is still an "8 core" (yeah, not physical 8 core) chip, just running at 4.0 Ghz instead of 4.7. And that puts it back down to a 125W chip, for $130. So, it's last gen, but definitely powerful (although, reading reviews just now, it looks like liquid cooling is still recommended).

But, going up to the $200 range you can get a Ryzen 5 1600 6-core, and that would be more powerful, faster, run cooler, and allow for DDR4. (And not require a PSU with extra 8 pin for the CPU... lol).

Also, AMD is better than intel, until you get up into the extremely ridiculous zone, for $1000+. I might get to take that back. It looks like the new Ryzen Threadripper might have taken the crown.

I just like to water cool the cpu as you can turn the fans down super low, so very little noise. Plus you can still do this most of the time with a modest overclock on the CPU. And it also looks pretty cool ha.

The thing I like about AMD is that they often use there motherboard chipsets for 3-4 years where as intel change them every single time they bring a new cpu out. So in theory I can by an entry level ryzen and in a few years time I can buy the upgrade cpu and just stick it straight in there with no issues.

Oh man, new fans are getting better too. I bought Corsair fans from Best Buy ( https://www.bestbuy.com/site/corsair-air-series-led-120mm-case-cooling-fan-white-blue-yellow-red-green-orange-violet/5845212.p?skuId=5845212&ref=212&loc=1&ksid=25ba2f4b-54d6-4567-a7a3-97ae75b9558c&ksprof_id=8&ksaffcode=pg199274&ksdevice=c&lsft=ref:212,loc:2) and they are crazy quiet, even at full speed (my giant tower also helps keep the noise down too).

You make a good point about the chipset. They probably won't be changing from the AM4 for quite a while now, or if they go AM4+, it could still be compatible, possibly.