Oh I learned that some Manufacturing folks really don't have thick skin the harsh way. I'm not saying keep your comments to yourself DAN_M but there's ways of telling someone to *** off in a professional manner. I was once like you.... but an old man taught me how to WIN at these type of fights and it's far from name calling and such. Not disagreeing with you or agreeing just dropping my 2 cents off on how to swing at em' with different words that'll keep you around.