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ThePudds
Hey everyone. I had a question about wages. My company has been known to undercut people for years on wages. i'm 20 years old and I really like programming these machines. So i will stick with it. Also, because i am new, i am ok with what they are paying me. I make $18.19/hour with less than a full year of experience. My company does yearly "Cost of living" raises. But nothing other than that. They can undercut people because of the job titles they give people. My job title isn't "CMM Programmer", It's "QA Technician". Like i said, i don't really care what im getting paid right now, because its paid experience in the field.

What would fair ranges of pay be for these fields
-- 0 to 3 years--
-- 3 to 5 years--
--5 to 10 years--
--10 years +--

I don't really wanna know what you guys are making, i just wanna hear some ranges.

If you don't wanna comment, then dont Rolling eyesRolling eyes

Thanks.
  • Shoulda been a poll with user's names hidden. There are several wage polls on the "other" CMM site
  • in reply to dwade
    I said i don't wanna know y'alls wages. Just wanted to know what you guys thought was fair ranges of pay for the years in service.
  • I don't think years in service is enough to gage how much should someone running and programming a CMM make.
    What type of parts and how intricate they are matters a lot. Also your grasp of GD&T and all the other standards that go with that i a big factor.

    Can you give an example of a typical part that you program the CMM for?
  • Considering a WAL-MART store I know was starting people at $20.00 that seems low. I am totally disagreeing with post above..... I think 99% has to do with JOB MARKET. You in a major area with a lot of job opportunity ? Wages are way better because you have options.... Small po-dunk town with a CMM..... You may think they would value talent but where else are you going...NOt saying its right but it might be closer to reality than work experience....lets say it took me quite a few years of CMM programming at new job to get back to CNC setup rate I was at in Major Metro market. Factor in medical I may be even now.....
  • in reply to Schlag
    You can look up the company i work for. I work for Agri-Fab. We make lawn care equipment. And to be fair, i did say they undercut almost everyone.
  • in reply to Nano Vujkovic
    Welded bumpers and brush guards for john deere. Some lawn sweepers. Tubes. small bent parts. machined parts. all kinds of stuff. Our tolerances range from +- .5 to +-.002.
  • 'All Animals were created Equal, but some Animals are more equal than others.'


    Here are some of the innate skills that directly relate to performance in this field:

    A.T.D. (Attention to Detail)

    Ability to visualize and think in terms of abstract 3D geometry

    Ability to analyze and plan

    Ability to think and create code (measurement routine) in a logical step by step progression

    Ability and willingness to maintain and troubleshoot a complex software/hardware coordinate measuring system

    Similarly there are block of knowledge that contribute to performance in the field like GD&T, trigonometry, geometry, etc.

    Someone who possesses an abundance of those skills and knowledge starting in this field will likely learn faster and perform better than someone who does not. In fact I am convinced there is a significant segment of the population that is innately unfit for CMM work. I have tried to teach a couple of those folks, and despite plenty of time and effort on both mine and their part, they never really got the hang of it.

    The subject of compensation pops up on these forums at regular intervals. If you have done your homework and sought out and read some of those threads you are probably familiar with the idea:

    Citing the earnings of others, (whether internal or external to your company), as a basis for what one's own compensation ought to be is a deeply flawed strategy. We are all unique individuals. You should make your case for the amount of compensation you think you should receive based on the cost of living in your locale and the value your efforts contribute to the company. Don't say, 'I ought to be making more than, (or as much as), soandso." Instead say, "I ought to be making $______ because I have ______ and I can _______ and I do ______. "

    Also don't forget that $ is not the only form of compensation. One example the company I worked at for almost 12 years in Houston raised the amount I had to contribute from my pay toward medical insurance for my family by $0 over the entire time I worked there. Most other companies in the nation raised employee contributions significantly over the same period of time. Every single year during that period of time the cost to my company to provide this benefit to employees increased. The company chose to absorb this cost rather than pass it on to the employees. This amounts to a unseen but literal raise every year.

    HTH & ymmv
  • I would recommend doing some job searches in your area for CMM programmers for PC-DMIS. They'll typically get you a baseline for what experience can earn you as a starting point.

    Unfortunately wages for this type of position can greatly vary depending on all types of circumstances.


  • Someone who possesses an abundance of those skills and knowledge starting in this field will likely learn faster and perform better than someone who does not. In fact I am convinced there is a significant segment of the population that is innately unfit for CMM work. I have tried to teach a couple of those folks, and despite plenty of time and effort on both mine and their part, they never really got the hang of it.



    I'm relatively convinced that this is a true statement. In general I've been responsible for training a lot of people and unfortunately there have been some people regardless of effort just can't grasp the job.

  • Considering a WAL-MART store I know was starting people at $20.00 that seems low. I am totally disagreeing with post above..... I think 99% has to do with JOB MARKET. You in a major area with a lot of job opportunity ? Wages are way better because you have options.... Small po-dunk town with a CMM..... You may think they would value talent but where else are you going...NOt saying its right but it might be closer to reality than work experience....lets say it took me quite a few years of CMM programming at new job to get back to CNC setup rate I was at in Major Metro market. Factor in medical I may be even now.....

    What do you exactly disagree with?
    Do you think that the years of service in the field should be the only gage metric for a pay?
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