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The town of East Hartford, CT where my job is located just issued a mandate for indoor public spaces punishable with a $100 fine regardless of vaccination status. People who are spaced at least six feet apart are exempt.

An email just came out that our company has re-instituted the mask mandate from before. The only people who get to use the six foot distance exemption are those in the office with low ceilings. Out on the shop floor where we have a 50 foot ceiling masks are always required. SMH

The town of East Hartford, CT where my job is located just issued a mandate for indoor public spaces punishable with a $100 fine regardless of vaccination status. People who are spaced at least six feet apart are exempt.

An email just came out that our company has re-instituted the mask mandate from before. The only people who get to use the six foot distance exemption are those in the office with low ceilings. Out on the shop floor where we have a 50 foot ceiling masks are always required. SMH

Hurry up and live in fear like the rest of the sheep!

Just a little background history……………

How France Helped Win the American Revolution


By Bob Zeller Anton Hohenstein's painting of Benjamin Franklin's reception at the Court of France in 1776. Library of Congress
When 70-year-old Benjamin Franklin boarded the Continental sloop-of-war Reprisal in Philadelphia on October 26, 1776, for a month-long voyage to France, Gen. George Washington’s Continental Army was losing the American Revolutionary War.


Anton Hohenstein's painting of Benjamin Franklin's reception at the Court of France in 1776. Library of Congress


The hope and excitement spawned by the Declaration of Independence, announced just four months earlier, with Franklin among the signers, had been replaced by the dread of impending defeat in the face of the overwhelming military power of the British army.

Franklin knew his mission was straightforward, if not simple. He would use his intellect, charm, wit, and experience to convince France to join the war on the side of the fledgling United States of America. Franklin’s popularity, persuasive powers, and a key American battlefield victory were crucial factors that led France to join the war in 1778.

France provided the money, troops, armament, military leadership, and naval support that tipped the balance of military power in favor of the United States and paved the way for the Continental Army’s ultimate victory, which was sealed at Yorktown, VA, five years after Franklin embarked on his mission.

When British Gen. Charles Cornwallis surrendered at Yorktown on Oct. 19, 1781, his vanquished troops marched through a corridor formed by the victorious forces. On one side were the Americans; on the other side stood the French – a scene that mirrored how critical France’s support had been.


"Surrender of Lord Cornwallis" Library of Congress


Wars between the British and French kingdoms dated back to the 12 ^th century, and the conflicts intensified as England, France, and Spain established and expanded their colonial empires beginning in the late 15 ^th century.

France had suffered bitter defeat in the most recent conflict, the Seven Years’ War (1756-63), which included the French and Indian War in North America. It had lost most of its claim to North America, having been forced to cede to England most of its land there, including all of Canada.

As England’s American colonies became ever more rebellious in the 1760s and 1770s, France was naturally predisposed to favor the American revolutionaries and saw an opportunity to try to blunt the power of its longtime adversary. It began providing covert support – beginning with badly needed gunpowder – in the spring of 1776.

The Declaration of Independence was well received across France, and Franklin was warmly welcomed when he arrived in Paris in December. Franklin’s charm made him even more popular, and he became a celebrity as he labored to gain more support for the American cause.

In the face of the dreadful final weeks of 1776 – “the times that try men’s souls,” as Thomas Painewrote – Washington scratched out miraculous victories at Trenton and Princeton that brought new life and hope to his ragged Continental Army. Covert support from France expanded to include field guns, arms, ammunition, money, and other assistance.

In France, the American fight for liberty struck a particular chord with aristocrat Gilbert du Motier, Marquis de Lafayette, who paid his way to America in 1777 to fight with distinction for the Continental Army, ultimately becoming a major general in Washington’s command.

When the Continental Army, commanded by Gen. Horatio Gates, defeated the British at the Battles of Saratoga on Sept. 19 and Oct. 7, 1777, it is estimated that as many as nine out of 10 American soldiers carried French arms, and virtually all had French gunpowder. French field guns also played a critical role in a decisive triumph that forced the historic surrender of British Gen. John Burgoyne and his entire army.


The American victory over British Gen. John Burgoyne’s army in the 1777 Battle of Saratoga marked a turning point in the Revolution. Pictured here is Saratoga National Historical Park in Stillwater, New York. American Battlefield Trust


The stunning success at Saratoga gave Franklin what he had been pleading for – explicit French support in the war. King Louis XVI approved negotiations to that end. With Franklin negotiating for the United States, the two countries agreed to a pair of treaties, signed on Feb. 6, 1778, that called for France’s direct participation in the war.

At Valley Forge that day, Washington’s army was suffering. More soldiers were dying or deserting with each new frigid winter day. The rest were just trying to survive. But by May 1, when Washington received word of the good news from Paris, the harsh winter was a bad memory. He assembled the entire army at Valley Forge for a martial celebration. The ceremony included Washington’s request that “upon a signal given, the whole army will huzza, ‘Long Live the King of France.’”

A French fleet conducted operations in America in 1778-79, but the support that made the difference came in 1780, when French Gen. Jean-Baptiste Donatien de Vimeur, comte de Rochambeau arrived in Rhode Island with more than 5,000 French soldiers.

Though he spoke no English, Rochambeau hit it off with Washington. The two formed an effective team, and their combined forces became, as Washington put it, seemingly “actuated by one spirit.” In August 1781, they moved south into Virginia on the offensive with a plan to trap British Gen. Charles Cornwallis and his 8,000-man army encamped at Yorktown. Lafayette’s force was already there, blocking escape routes.

The plan’s success hinged on French naval support. Washington and Rochambeau had requested and received the assistance of the French fleet in the West Indies commanded by Admiral François Joseph Paul de Grasse, who was sailing to Virginia. If de Grasse could wrest control of the mouth of the Chesapeake Bay from the British fleet protecting Cornwallis, the British army would be surrounded.


The Battle of the Capes in September 1781. Wikimedia Commons


On Sept. 9, 1781, in the Battle of the Capes, one of history’s most consequential naval battles, de Grasse defeated the British fleet, damaging it badly enough to force its withdraw to New York. Cornwallis was surrounded, and the Siege of Yorktown began. On Oct. 19, 1781, Cornwallis surrendered. His defeat broke the back of Britain’s war effort and led to the formal end of the war in 1783.

Lafayette was one of many French heroes in the Revolutionary War, but his name came to shine the brightest in the United States, especially after he returned to America for an enormously popular, 15-month, farewell tour in 1824-25. The aging commander visited all of the young nation’s 24 states and received a hero’s welcome at many stops. He was the last surviving French general of the Revolutionary War.

i'm not afraid of being unemployed.

my work is playing a game. they are trying to make us uncomfortable & get the unworthy ones to leave.

jokes on them. working here literally IS my unemployment. i use this opportunity to read, work out, learn more about gd&t, help others on this forum, and job hunt. am happy to take their very easy money.

note:
while i am here, i give them a solid 8 hrs work that i feel good about. that said they have lost my respect..above & beyond time is far gone.. it is time to go when the correct situation presents itself

I guess I'm a different breed, I come to work, I have fun doing it, believe or not everyone enjoys, not only my work ethic, but my personality. Another company I worked for was big on Pizza parties, birthday parties, other stuff like this, and I just didn't involve myself in that, and they would always make a big deal about it, because the whole company would show up except me. I always told them, I think it's great that you do this for your employees, but if I want to have a pizza party or birthday party or whatever, I don't want to do this while I work, these are things I like to do on my free time. So after 6 months when I had quit this job, They were calling me up asking if I would come back offering me more money and such, They then added "now here's the deal, you have to be more involved with the pizza parties and birthday parties, etc" Now, to me the extra money isn't worth it, plus it's further to travel. and already starting to dictate stupid sh_it. because that's where it starts the corny stuff then it just gets worse from there, You're situation, That's why I took this job that I'm at now. My boss is not in my business nor anyone else. but is in to your well being. He bought masks, said " No one has to wear them, but if you feel more comfortable wearing them, here they are, If anybody gets sick from this Covid thing, please stay home, I'll pay you up to 2 weeks not taking away from your vacation." and he continued on giving his employees the world. I pulled him off to the side and told him" "You're going to have to be an azz sometime or someone is gonna take advantage of you" Point is, You can stay there and tell yourself, I'll take there money and do not much of anything, and make it sound all good, but you already come to the conclusion you're not to happy with the environment that you're in.

Old machinist words to me " You can always polish a turd, but in the end, it's till a turd."

referring to bad parts but it can be applied here too.

I guess I'm a different breed, I come to work, I have fun doing it, believe or not everyone enjoys, not only my work ethic, but my personality. Another company I worked for was big on Pizza parties, birthday parties, other stuff like this, and I just didn't involve myself in that, and they would always make a big deal about it, because the whole company would show up except me. I always told them, I think it's great that you do this for your employees, but if I want to have a pizza party or birthday party or whatever, I don't want to do this while I work, these are things I like to do on my free time. So after 6 months when I had quit this job, They were calling me up asking if I would come back offering me more money and such, They then added "now here's the deal, you have to be more involved with the pizza parties and birthday parties, etc" Now, to me the extra money isn't worth it, plus it's further to travel. and already starting to dictate stupid sh_it. because that's where it starts the corny stuff then it just gets worse from there, You're situation, That's why I took this job that I'm at now. My boss is not in my business nor anyone else. but is in to your well being. He bought masks, said " No one has to wear them, but if you feel more comfortable wearing them, here they are, If anybody gets sick from this Covid thing, please stay home, I'll pay you up to 2 weeks not taking away from your vacation." and he continued on giving his employees the world. I pulled him off to the side and told him" "You're going to have to be an azz sometime or someone is gonna take advantage of you" Point is, You can stay there and tell yourself, I'll take there money and do not much of anything, and make it sound all good, but you already come to the conclusion you're not to happy with the environment that you're in.

Old machinist words to me " You can always polish a turd, but in the end, it's till a turd."

referring to bad parts but it can be applied here too.

being on employment would mean my life would be identical to what it is now except id be making ~60% less money

i'll take the $$ then bow out when its time =)

being on employment would mean my life would be identical to what it is now except id be making ~60% less money

i'll take the $$ then bow out when its time =)

And as always Danny boy, I wish you good luck.

"Why won't you get the vaccine? Do you not trust scientists?"

You mean the same ones who originally said that it wasn't a lab leak and then publicly bashed any other scientist who questioned the narrative? The same scientists who were being funded by the parties under investigation? Then it comes out later on that it most likely was in fact a lab leak yet no formal non-biased (non-conflict of interest) investigation has been done.

Lets say you walk into a room full of toddlers in play pens and find there is *** on the floor. All of the other toddlers have their pants on and are in their own play pens. However one toddler has no pants and is in the play pen with the po o. Obviously it was the neighbors dog...... And to say otherwise is foolish and you will be branded an incompetent crazy conspiracy theorist.

The precedent has been set. Test one has been completed. You cant question the narrative if you want to maintain any kind of standing. Now..... with the vaccine. Why push SO hard? Why do they want 100%?

To eliminate the control group. If everyone is vaccinated then complications down the line cant be blamed on the vaccine because there is no base line example. Also you can't talk about the alarmingly high rates of complications from the vaccine because....... see lab leak comment above.......

This is not a "normal" vaccine. The entire method behind it is experimental. ALL vaccines when administered in the shoulder remain in the shoulder until the bodies natural processes eliminate the contamination. What remains is the antibodies created.

However this vaccine has spike proteins that are cleaved off of the cells and then travel through the body into the brain, heart, lungs etc. They have been shown to gather in alarmingly high levels in the ovaries. Hints why there are strokes, heart attacks, myocarditis, miscarriages, bells palsy. All kinds of different complications caused by this vaccine and yet... nobody says a word. Call me crazy sure...... but Ill take my chances.

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"Why won't you get the vaccine? Do you not trust scientists?"

You mean the same ones who originally said that it wasn't a lab leak and then publicly bashed any other scientist who questioned the narrative? The same scientists who were being funded by the parties under investigation? Then it comes out later on that it most likely was in fact a lab leak yet no formal non-biased (non-conflict of interest) investigation has been done.

Lets say you walk into a room full of toddlers in play pens and find there is ***** on the floor. All of the other toddlers have their pants on and are in their own play pens. However one toddler has no pants and is in the play pen with the po o. Obviously it was the neighbors dog...... And to say otherwise is foolish and you will be branded an incompetent crazy conspiracy theorist.

The precedent has been set. Test one has been completed. You cant question the narrative if you want to maintain any kind of standing. Now..... with the vaccine. Why push SO hard? Why do they want 100%?

To eliminate the control group. If everyone is vaccinated then complications down the line cant be blamed on the vaccine because there is no base line example. Also you can't talk about the alarmingly high rates of complications from the vaccine because....... see lab leak comment above.......

This is not a "normal" vaccine. The entire method behind it is experimental. ALL vaccines when administered in the shoulder remain in the shoulder until the bodies natural processes eliminate the contamination. What remains is the antibodies created.

However this vaccine has spike proteins that are cleaved off of the cells and then travel through the body into the brain, heart, lungs etc. They have been shown to gather in alarmingly high levels in the ovaries. Hints why there are strokes, heart attacks, myocarditis, miscarriages, bells palsy. All kinds of different complications caused by this vaccine and yet... nobody says a word. Call me crazy sure...... but Ill take my chances.

Exactly!

Look at the data coming out if Israel. They are the most vaccinated country in the world and the center of the all the data relating to the vaccine. Most of their cases and hospitalizations are coming from the vaccinated group rather than the unvaccinated group.

They want to eliminate the control group because their trials are happening right now! And this FDA "approval" is a sham as well. The EUA vaccine has just been rebranded into their "brand name". It's the same thing! However, Pfizer still has to give them data on how it affects pregnancy and teens, which doesn't need to be submitted for another few years! Everyone getting the jab is the trial subject.

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Exactly!

Look at the data coming out if Israel. They are the most vaccinated country in the world and the center of the all the data relating to the vaccine. Most of their cases and hospitalizations are coming from the vaccinated group rather than the unvaccinated group.

They want to eliminate the control group because their trials are happening right now! And this FDA "approval" is a sham as well. The EUA vaccine has just been rebranded into their "brand name". It's the same thing! However, Pfizer still has to give them data on how it affects pregnancy and teens, which doesn't need to be submitted for another few years! Everyone getting the jab is the trial subject.

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It also wasn't evaluated on multiple levels for the FDA approval. for example carcinogens(causes cancer), or its effects on fertility in both males and females. There are more but I don't remember them off the top of my head. It shows exactly how powerless we are..... terrifying.

I've said it before, many places and many times, when the vaxxed population turns up sterile in a couple years, those of us that refused to be bullied will be the ones re-populating the world. No fatties or uggos for me!