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cheesiechanman
So I was out last week with the rona and the operator (programmer in training) was supposed to run some parts for me while i was out. Well Its a very simple program with a simple manual alignment and CAD. Well i get a phone call while I'm lying in bed and she said the CAD was gone. So she didn't know where to take the manual hits.

Understandable... so I told her to hit CTRL+Z and it should bring the CAD into view. Nothing. I ask her if she can see the points. she says yes. Then i ask her to bring the CAD file back in since the CAD was gone and then we could walk through transforming the CAD to match the hits. Well she imports the CAD again and says the CAD is still gone. I ask her to send me a picture of the screen........

The report window was open..... It was over top of the graphics display window. That's it. That was the huge issue that she couldn't figure out. And she is blaming me saying I should be more descriptive in my programs so that when issues like this happen she knows what to do. I'm at a loss for words...


  • It was one of the owner's pets where they take a special interest in them for whatever reason. she was actually the shipping and receiving manager.

    I always felt bad for people that worked in that department, no chance of success when your boss struggles with counting and common sense.

    We also had a brand new pallet wrapper that always "malfunctioned" as well about once a month. I bet the service tech calls weren't cheap for that.

    Sounds like some of the shipping managers my previous employer kept hiring. It was like they could do whatever they wanted, until they cost the company a certain dollar amount, then they were fired.

    The machine they had was an old manually rotated head with tips you had to unscrew to change. I had an operator snap the tip in half when he accidentally hit it with a part while taking it off the machine. I was actually verbally reprimanded for not making sure the machine had robust enough tips to withstand a direct impact from a 25lb steel part. This was from someone who was an engineer prior to becoming a manager. I told him that upgrading to something like TP20's would require upgrading the controller and head, or getting a newer CMM. I was told that I was being over dramatic, until I handed him the recommendation from Hexagon which stated the same thing. At that point, I was "just being argumentative".

    I got the last laugh. They didn't have CAD models or proper fixtures. Everything was makeshift fixtures and physically probing the parts. They didn't want me to waste time writing down lengthy work instructions either. I just documented everything in a personal notebook, for my own reference. when I left, I took my notebook with me. 400+ programs and none of the operators know how to set most of them up and run them.
  • Frustrating day yesterday....

    We've got a younger person that without management telling her so, has assumed the role of some sort of team leader. She is book smart but lacks common sense or any understanding/comprehension of getting the facts before sending out condescending emails and training requests. If it weren't for her being someone's pet I'd have probably let loose on her yesterday with her latest assumption but held my breath and said a prayer asking for guidance and calm.... that did help and I calmly (not really LOL) responded with what happened and cc'd everyone that had firsthand knowledge of what transpired as she was not involved in any of conversations but had to throw her assumptions into the foray.
  • Frustrating day yesterday....

    We've got a younger person that without management telling her so, has assumed the role of some sort of team leader. She is book smart but lacks common sense or any understanding/comprehension of getting the facts before sending out condescending emails and training requests. If it weren't for her being someone's pet I'd have probably let loose on her yesterday with her latest assumption but held my breath and said a prayer asking for guidance and calm.... that did help and I calmly (not really LOL) responded with what happened and cc'd everyone that had firsthand knowledge of what transpired as she was not involved in any of conversations but had to throw her assumptions into the foray.

    Oof. you got to love the people that have spent like 4 weeks in manufacturing that try and come in and "fix" everything.
  • Actual emails between myself and our HR rep.
    Our company as a whole has been having a lot of run ins with this lady and I am fed up with it. This is my second negative interaction with her in just a few weeks and she has been here less than 2 months.

    Let me preface this with my standard work day is 10 hours and I had just put in a PTO slip to leave at lunch one day in the following week.
    Work - 6:00am - 11:30am (5.5 hours)
    Unpaid Lunch 11:30am - 12:00pm
    Work 12:00pm - 4:30pm (4.5 hours)

    Hi J,

    Your request for 5 hours (11:30am – 4:30pm) of PTO on Thursday April 14, 2022 is approved.
    _______________________________
    Hello HR,

    Thank you. Just wanted to confirm that will be paid as 4.5 hours PTO though because typically from 11:30-12:00 I am at lunch.

    Best,
    ____________________________
    Hello J,

    Unfortunately, no, if you are leaving at 11:30am then you should clock out completely for the day. Remember, lunch is required when you work 6 hours or more and your shift starts at 6am. I have taken the liberty of modifying your absence request from 4.5 to 5 hours.
    ____________________________
    *cc'd owner 1, owner2, my manager, and our GM.*
    Hey HR,

    That morning I will not be working 6 hours, I will be working 5.5 hours + 4.5 hours PTO to equal 10 hours total.
    If the PTO is for 5 hours I will have 40.5 hours for the week.

    Best,
    ____________________________
    J,

    I’m aware that you aren’t working 6 hours. I merely stated that if you are working 6 hours or more that lunch is required . Correct it is 4.5 hours of PTO. *gaslighting me* Also, it was unnecessary for you to copy Owner1 and Owner2 on this thread. I see exactly what you are doing. I know my job and going forward don’t undermine me in that way.*she isn't my manager*

    ____________________________
    Respectfully,

    That is not what you said in the email. You stated, “I have taken the liberty of modifying your absence request from 4.5 to 5 hours.” when the correct request is for 4.5 hours.

    I did not mean to undermine you in any way, I simply CC’d Owner1 and Owner2 for transparency in our conversation as well as their potential feedback.

    I don’t appreciate the accusation of “seeing exactly what I am doing… going forward don’t undermine me in that way”.
    I think there is a kinder way to talk to the employees of this company.

    Best,
    ____________________________
    (We then had a sit-down meeting with my manager and one of the owners where she apologized)
  • Actual emails between myself and our HR rep.


    Dang! Astonished
  • Actual emails between myself and our HR rep.
    Our company as a whole has been having a lot of run ins with this lady and I am fed up with it. This is my second negative interaction with her in just a few weeks and she has been here less than 2 months.

    Let me preface this with my standard work day is 10 hours and I had just put in a PTO slip to leave at lunch one day in the following week.
    Work - 6:00am - 11:30am (5.5 hours)
    Unpaid Lunch 11:30am - 12:00pm
    Work 12:00pm - 4:30pm (4.5 hours)

    Hi J,

    Your request for 5 hours (11:30am – 4:30pm) of PTO on Thursday April 14, 2022 is approved.
    _______________________________
    Hello HR,

    Thank you. Just wanted to confirm that will be paid as 4.5 hours PTO though because typically from 11:30-12:00 I am at lunch.

    Best,
    ____________________________
    Hello J,

    Unfortunately, no, if you are leaving at 11:30am then you should clock out completely for the day. Remember, lunch is required when you work 6 hours or more and your shift starts at 6am. I have taken the liberty of modifying your absence request from 4.5 to 5 hours.
    ____________________________
    *cc'd owner 1, owner2, my manager, and our GM.*
    Hey HR,

    That morning I will not be working 6 hours, I will be working 5.5 hours + 4.5 hours PTO to equal 10 hours total.
    If the PTO is for 5 hours I will have 40.5 hours for the week.

    Best,
    ____________________________
    J,

    I’m aware that you aren’t working 6 hours. I merely stated that if you are working 6 hours or more that lunch is required . Correct it is 4.5 hours of PTO. *gaslighting me* Also, it was unnecessary for you to copy Owner1 and Owner2 on this thread. I see exactly what you are doing. I know my job and going forward don’t undermine me in that way.*she isn't my manager*

    ____________________________
    Respectfully,

    That is not what you said in the email. You stated, “I have taken the liberty of modifying your absence request from 4.5 to 5 hours.” when the correct request is for 4.5 hours.

    I did not mean to undermine you in any way, I simply CC’d Owner1 and Owner2 for transparency in our conversation as well as their potential feedback.

    I don’t appreciate the accusation of “seeing exactly what I am doing… going forward don’t undermine me in that way”.
    I think there is a kinder way to talk to the employees of this company.

    Best,
    ____________________________
    (We then had a sit-down meeting with my manager and one of the owners where she apologized)

    she sounds lovely to work withWink


  • Dang! Astonished

    Yeah. Needless to say there was a lot of restraint shown in my final email.
  • in reply to DAN_M
    I'd use a slightly different word than lovely....
  • she's the kind of person you guys call Keren i guess Wink
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