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IATF / ISO 17025 Calibration

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All you programmers who work in Automotive and/or are IATF certified, do you have Hexagon calibrate your CMMs to ISO 17025?

At last year's audit, we were dinged for not having the ANAB label on our CMM certs. In the past we just did the B89 or ISO 10360 (vision). Per the IATF standard 7.1.5.3.2 the certificate of calibration or test report shall include the mark of a national accreditation body. Hexagon only does this with an ISO 17025 calibration. Hexagon won't add the ANAB onto the certs unless they do an ISO 17025 calibration, even though they are ANAB certified.

This year we are adding this to our MyCare package and now Hexagon wants to charge an additional $2K for each CMM calibration.

How many of you ran into this or currently do this?
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  • The following link is for Hexagon: https://www.hexagonmi.com/-/media/Fi...1E9A18C4BF8BE2

    That is the accreditation cert and lab scope for their facility near me. That states that they are an ISO 17025 accredited lab by ANAB. The scope shows which standards, methods, and equipment is used for the equipment/ parameters calibrated. If Hexagon gives you a calibration report that contains their info and the standards, methods, and equipment called out in their scope, then it is accredited and traceable to ISO 17025 and ANAB.

    You should have that accreditation on file at your facility. That is the evidence that the calibration is legit. The report is just the results and the specific tools and processes for a specific calibration.

    Also, IATF standard 7.1.5.3.2 doesn't say anything about having to have an ANAB accreditation. It states that "the laboratory shall be accredited to ISO/IEC 17025 or its national equivalent." ANAB is just one accreditation body. A2LA also does ISO 17025 accreditation.

    Here is the most recent IATF clarification: https://www.iatfglobaloversight.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/IATF-16949-SIs-April-2021.pdf
    The clause in question is on pages 10 and 11. It is a bit convoluted but it might help.
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  • The following link is for Hexagon: https://www.hexagonmi.com/-/media/Fi...1E9A18C4BF8BE2

    That is the accreditation cert and lab scope for their facility near me. That states that they are an ISO 17025 accredited lab by ANAB. The scope shows which standards, methods, and equipment is used for the equipment/ parameters calibrated. If Hexagon gives you a calibration report that contains their info and the standards, methods, and equipment called out in their scope, then it is accredited and traceable to ISO 17025 and ANAB.

    You should have that accreditation on file at your facility. That is the evidence that the calibration is legit. The report is just the results and the specific tools and processes for a specific calibration.

    Also, IATF standard 7.1.5.3.2 doesn't say anything about having to have an ANAB accreditation. It states that "the laboratory shall be accredited to ISO/IEC 17025 or its national equivalent." ANAB is just one accreditation body. A2LA also does ISO 17025 accreditation.

    Here is the most recent IATF clarification: https://www.iatfglobaloversight.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/IATF-16949-SIs-April-2021.pdf
    The clause in question is on pages 10 and 11. It is a bit convoluted but it might help.
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