DCC alignment not automatically following manual alignment

Incorrect alignment setup? Post code please.

Here's all my code up until my DCC alignment. Please note that plane 4 is the same feature as datum a, plane 5 is the same feature as datum b, and circle 2 is the same as datum e, and the program crashes the moment it tries to re-measure the feature circle 2 and datum e are measured from.



STARTUP =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:USE_PART_SETUP,LIST=YES
ALIGNMENT/END
MODE/MANUAL
FORMAT/TEXT,OPTIONS, ,HEADINGS,SYMBOLS, ;NOM,TOL,MEAS,DEV,OUTTOL, ,
TEMPCOMP/METHOD = AUTOMATIC,MATERIAL = Zerodur; Nexcera,CTE=0
,SET WARNING LIMIT = FALSE,MINIMUM = 10,MAXIMUM = 40
,PART SENSOR NUM=DEFAULT,X SCALE= 21.9751,Y SCALE= 20.8346,Z SCALE= 21.8329,PART TEMP=20.9932
LOADPROBE/2X20 LONG MASTER
TIP/T1A0B0, SHANKIJK=0, 0, 1, ANGLE=0
MOVESPEED/ 150
TOUCHSPEED/ 2
PLN4 =FEAT/PLANE,CARTESIAN,OUTLINE
THEO/<15.6447,15.8187,-36.5906>,<0,0,1>
ACTL/<15.76,18.611,-36.6267>,<0.0003234,-0.0618134,0.9980877>
MEAS/PLANE,4
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<12.5523,15.9734,-36.5818>,<-0.0003585,-0.0630368,0.9980111>,<11.5549,18.3593,-36.6409>,USE THEO=YES
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<12.5523,15.6739,-36.601>,<-0.0003585,-0.0630368,0.9980111>,<11.5548,18.8796,-36.6087>,USE THEO=YES
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<18.6808,15.6738,-36.5985>,<-0.0003585,-0.0630368,0.9980111>,<19.9653,18.7411,-36.62>,USE THEO=YES
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<18.7935,15.9537,-36.5811>,<-0.0003585,-0.0630368,0.9980111>,<19.9651,18.464,-36.6372>,USE THEO=YES
ENDMEAS/
TIP/T1A90B-90, SHANKIJK=1, 0, 0, ANGLE=-90
PLN5 =FEAT/PLANE,CARTESIAN,OUTLINE
THEO/<19.0784,15.8922,-37.9759>,<1,0,0>
ACTL/<19.317,18.5965,-37.2322>,<0.0712559,0.9972769,0.0190128>
MEAS/PLANE,4
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<19.0788,16.0354,-37.0634>,<0.9999999,-0.0001162,-0.0004092>,<20.1301,18.5705,-39.0103>,USE THEO=YES
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<19.0787,15.6345,-37.0633>,<0.9999999,-0.0001162,-0.0004092>,<16.8754,18.741,-35.7425>,USE THEO=YES
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<19.078,15.8715,-38.8884>,<0.9999999,-0.0001162,-0.0004092>,<20.1316,18.7287,-37.088>,USE THEO=YES
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<19.0779,16.0273,-38.8884>,<0.9999999,-0.0001162,-0.0004092>,<20.131,18.3458,-37.088>,USE THEO=YES
ENDMEAS/
WORKPLANE/XPLUS
CIR2 =FEAT/CIRCLE,CARTESIAN,IN,LEAST_SQR
THEO/<19.0029,16.0017,-39.3558>,<1,0,0>,0.2533
ACTL/<20.0161,18.7515,-39.3642>,<1,0,0>,0.2527
MEAS/CIRCLE,7,XPLUS
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<19.0486,15.9518,-39.4724>,<0,0.3933998,0.9193675>,<20.0282,18.7159,-39.4854>,USE THEO=YES
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<19.0486,15.9518,-39.2394>,<0,0.3940268,-0.9190989>,<20.0282,18.7159,-39.2429>,USE THEO=YES
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<19.0486,16.1253,-39.3846>,<0,-0.9738975,0.2269881>,<20.0282,18.6275,-39.3887>,USE THEO=YES
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<18.9686,16.0237,-39.4803>,<0,-0.1738538,0.9847715>,<20.0283,18.8757,-39.3887>,USE THEO=YES
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<18.9686,16.0236,-39.2312>,<0,-0.1732581,-0.9848764>,<20.0281,18.6399,-39.4235>,USE THEO=YES
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<18.9686,16.1265,-39.3768>,<0,-0.986222,0.1654272>,<20.0282,18.8628,-39.4235>,USE THEO=YES
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<18.9686,15.8768,-39.3767>,<0,0.9862668,0.1651599>,<19.9436,18.6358,-39.3137>,USE THEO=YES
ENDMEAS/
A1 =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:STARTUP,LIST=YES
ALIGNMENT/LEVEL,ZPLUS,PLN4
ALIGNMENT/LEVEL,XPLUS,PLN5
ALIGNMENT/TRANS,XAXIS,PLN5
ALIGNMENT/TRANS,YAXIS,CIR2
ALIGNMENT/TRANS,ZAXIS,CIR2
ALIGNMENT/END
MODE/DCC
TIP/T1A90B-90, SHANKIJK=1, 0.0014, 0.0007, ANGLE=-93.7008
DATUM_E =FEAT/CIRCLE,CARTESIAN,IN,LEAST_SQR
THEO/<0,0,0>,<1,0,0>,0.251
ACTL/<0.1927,-0.3951,0.0095>,<0.0700238,-0.9975397,0.0033602>,0.2527
MEAS/CIRCLE,4,FEATURE=PLN5
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<-0.0512,0.0156,-0.1259>,<0,-0.1256055,0.9920803>,<0.2072,-0.3894,-0.1153>,USE THEO=YES
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<-0.0513,0.0313,0.1226>,<0,-0.2498426,-0.9682865>,<0.2104,-0.3837,0.1327>,USE THEO=YES
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<-0.0513,0.123,-0.0296>,<0,-0.9726011,0.2324803>,<0.2782,-0.3511,-0.0162>,USE THEO=YES
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<-0.0512,-0.1263,-0.0138>,<0,0.9941241,0.1082465>,<0.1067,-0.4402,-0.008>,USE THEO=YES
ENDMEAS/
DATUM_B =FEAT/PLANE,CARTESIAN,OUTLINE
THEO/<0,0,1.4538>,<1,0,0>
ACTL/<0.1214,-0.4466,1.4617>,<0.0704814,-0.9975071,0.0034553>
MEAS/PLANE,4
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<0.0002,0.0982,0.21>,<1,0,0>,<0.2484,-0.4782,0.2241>,USE THEO=YES
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<0.0001,-0.1028,0.2227>,<1,0,0>,<0.0475,-0.4928,0.2278>,USE THEO=YES
MOVE/CIRCULAR
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<0,-0.2006,2.6902>,<1,0,0>,<-0.1601,-0.4986,2.6885>,USE THEO=YES
MOVE/CIRCULAR
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<0.0001,0.1651,2.6921>,<1,0,0>,<0.204 2,-0.473,2.7067>,USE THEO=YES
ENDMEAS/
WORKPLANE/ZPLUS
MOVE/INCREMENT,<-0.0034,0.0151,10>
TIP/T1A0B0, SHANKIJK=-0.0012, 0.0646, 0.9979, ANGLE=0.1084
DIM FLAT1= FLATNESS OF PLANE DATUM_B UNITS=IN ,$
GRAPH=OFF TEXT=OFF MULT=10.00 ARROWDENSITY=100 OUTPUT=BOTH
AX NOMINAL +TOL -TOL MEAS DEV OUTTOL
M 0.0000 0.0005 0.0000 0.0004 0.0004 0.0000 ------#--
TIP/T1A0B0, SHANKIJK=-0.0003, 0.0015, 1, ANGLE=0.0701
DATUM_A =FEAT/PLANE,CARTESIAN,OUTLINE
THEO/<-3.364,-0.0652,2.732>,<0,0,1>
ACTL/<-0.2264,2.9055,2.7306>,<-0.0439183,0.0004808,0.999035>
MEAS/PLANE,5
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<-0.3926,-0.2057,2.7715>,<0,0,1>,<-0.1584,-0.0685,2.7352>,USE THEO=YES
MOVE/CIRCULAR
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<-0.3927,0.1462,2.7736>,<0,0,1>,<0.1922,-0.0437,2.7504>,USE THEO=YES
MOVE/CIRCULAR
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<-6.5347,0.1449,2.7692>,<0,0,1>,<-0.239,6.0832,2.7286>,USE THEO=YES
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<-3,-0.2057,2.7715>,<0,0,1>,<-0.341,2.5326,2.7257>,USE THEO=YES
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<-6.5,-0.2057,2.7715>,<0,0,1>,<-0.5861,6.0239,2.7133>,USE THEO=YES
ENDMEAS/
MOVE/POINT,NORMAL,<-7.7645,0.117,3.0095>
WORKPLANE/ZPLUS
DATDEF/E,FEATURES=DATUM_E,,
DATDEF/B,FEATURES=DATUM_B,,
DATDEF/A,FEATURES=DATUM_A,,
LIN1 =FEAT/LINE,CARTESIAN,UNBOUNDED
THEO/<-6.519,0.1148,2.8452>,<1,0,0>
ACTL/<-0.2697,6.0654,2.7665>,<0.0700815,-0.9975349,0.003561>
MEAS/LINE,4,FEATURE=DATUM_A
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<-6.519,0.0748,2.805>,<0,0,1>,<-0.3078,6.0626,2.7257>,USE THEO=YES
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<-4.6568,0.076,2.8063>,<0,0,1>,<-0.1762,4.2052,2.7322>,USE THEO=YES
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<-2.4171,0.0776,2.8078>,<0,0,1>,<-0.0178,1.971,2.7402>,USE THEO=YES
HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<-0.25,0.0748,2.805>,<0,0,1>,<0.1311,-0.191,2.748>,USE THEO=YES
ENDMEAS/
MOVE/INCREMENT,<-0.0007,0.003,2>
LIN2 =FEAT/LINE,CARTESIAN,UNBOUNDED,NO
THEO/<0,-0.0326,2.732>,<0,1,0>
ACTL/<0.0378,-0.448,2.7439>,<0.9965462,0.0705651,0.0437749>
CONSTR/LINE,INTOF,DATUM_A,DATUM_B
DIM STRA1= STRAIGHTNESS OF LINE LIN1 UNITS=IN ,$
GRAPH=OFF TEXT=OFF MULT=10.00 ARROWDENSITY=100 OUTPUT=BOTH
AX NOMINAL +TOL -TOL MEAS DEV OUTTOL
M 0.0000 0.0050 0.0000 0.0029 0.0029 0.0000 -----#---
DIM LOC1= POSITION OF CIRCLE DATUM_E UNITS=IN ,$
GRAPH=OFF TEXT=OFF MULT=10.00 OUTPUT=BOTH FIT TO DATUMS=OFF DEV PERPEN CENTERLINE=ON DISPLAY=DIAMETER
AX NOMINAL +TOL -TOL BONUS MEAS DEV OUTTOL
Y 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
Z 0.0000 -0.0065 -0.0065
D1 PLANE DATUM_A AT RFS
D2 PLANE DATUM_B AT RFS
TP RFS 0.0100 0.0000 0.0131 0.0131 0.0031 -------->
END OF DIMENSION LOC1
A2 =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:STARTUP,LIST=YES
ALIGNMENT/LEVEL,XPLUS,DATUM_B
ALIGNMENT/TRANS,XAXIS,DATUM_B
ALIGNMENT/TRANS,YAXIS,DATUM_E
ALIGNMENT/TRANS,ZAXIS,DATUM_E
ALIGNMENT/ROTATE,YPLUS,TO,LIN2,ABOUT,XPLUS
ALIGNMENT/END

quick guess is that your manual alignment features do not have the correct nominals, they are still machine values, not alignment values. You have no AXIS_OFFSETS in your manual alignment either. Even if you want the features to be ZERO, you should use an AXIS_OFFSET of 0.0000000000001 (Pdmis will not put a zero axis offest in the alignment, it needs to be a number other than zero)

Manual alignment has 2 levels. That no worky ..... Bad habit to dimension anything before DCC alignment as well., It will bite you sooner or later. After DCC features, create DCC alignment and THEN , start creating additional features. THe postion of DATUM E is realted to your manual alignment not the DCC features. Thats just kind of a mess.....

LEVEL / ROTATE / And then X-Y-Z- 0.000 ( IN ANY ORDER )

So I should re-measure all features after the DCC alignment and only dimension off of those, even if I measured those features in DCC mode before the DCC alignment?

If i'm understanding you correctly then I should go back to my manual features and correct their theoretical values to match their position based off the alignment I intend to make further down in in the program, correct?

So I should re-measure all features after the DCC alignment and only dimension off of those, even if I measured those features in DCC mode before the DCC alignment?

So I should re-measure all features after the DCC alignment and only dimension off of those, even if I measured those features in DCC mode before the DCC alignment?

YES!!!!!!!! Never dimension to features used in your alignment!!!!!

I have a guy here who will dimension to hits taken in his manual alignment.

quick guess is that your manual alignment features do not have the correct nominals, they are still machine values, not alignment values. You have no AXIS_OFFSETS in your manual alignment either. Even if you want the features to be ZERO, you should use an AXIS_OFFSET of 0.0000000000001 (Pdmis will not put a zero axis offest in the alignment, it needs to be a number other than zero)

if your plane needs to be Z0 with a vector of 0,0,1, then that should be what it shows for the THEO values of that plane. If you are just banging out an alignment by measuring the part, NOT using cad, then making an alignment, you should use CAD=PART as part of that alignment, it updates the manual features to the NOMINALS and VECTORS that your alignment wants them to be, or, you can change them all by hand before you make the alignment.

MomPickMeUpImScared See my response below. Great name BTW. That's probably what new people think after working around me for the first time.