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True Position formulas?

I just want to know which are the TP formulas, for cartesian and polar measurements.
Thanks.


  • Can you explain why it is important not to use the full deviation in both directions? Why wouldn't the machinist correct the full amount of X and Y to bring the holes back to nominal?


    Good point...this methodology is for rough calculations of true position!

    Machinists should adjust to full deviations in both directions.


  • Can you explain why it is important not to use the full deviation in both directions? Why wouldn't the machinist correct the full amount of X and Y to bring the holes back to nominal?


    Thought I explained that above? Treat your hole as 2 Radii. If you move your Center point in the worst case direction, Draw a Radius with a protractor in the plus Direction lets say your X is your worst, and you draw a Radius in X minus, Your circle is complete. But you haven't accounted your Y, But YOUR CIRCLE IS COMPLETE, so the only thing your circle or your 2 Radii have in common is a center point, so you already accounted for the 2 Radii in each direction of X and you can't create 2 more Radii in the Y direction, You'll end up with a wollered hole or circle. Now if you shift the 2 Radii equally from the center, again because your circle is complete. if you move it half the deviation, Then the 2 radii will move equally in the Y direction, without distorting the circle, because It was already created in the X direction. If this is to complicated for you. I would strongly urge you not use this. <<<< not being rude, just don't know if I'm explaining my theory good enough, I'm stating it works for me.
  • I'm with Buck on this one. Why would you tell a machinist to only adjust half the deviation in one direction? No need for calculations when making adjustments to nominal...

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        Today, 02:32 PM
        I'm with Buck on this one. Why would you tell a machinist to only adjust half the deviation in one direction? No need for calculations when making adjustments to nominal...
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    Can't count the times I have told the machinist to move in both directions the deviation, Just to tell him or her on the next piece to move it back Half of what I told him or her in the first place. again it's 2 Radii Not 2 parallel sides like a square, that I would understand. Anyway maybe your Machinist or Machines are magnificent. I have yet to come across any, "Even though it looks good on paper don't always mean it's good," So far My batting average, Probably about 98% spot on. One move and done. Don't know why, but it works


      • commented
        Today, 02:32 PM
        I'm with Buck on this one. Why would you tell a machinist to only adjust half the deviation in one direction? No need for calculations when making adjustments to nominal...
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    Can't count the times I have told the machinist to move in both directions the deviation, Just to tell him or her on the next piece to move it back Half of what I told him or her in the first place. again it's 2 Radii Not 2 parallel sides like a square, that I would understand. Anyway maybe your Machinist or Machines are magnificent. I have yet to come across any, "Even though it looks good on paper don't always mean it's good," So far My batting average, Probably about 98% spot on. One move and done. Don't know why, but it works


    Interesting. I'll keep that in mind.
  • Oh and just to add, Let's say a hole is out .0012 in one direction. I'll tell them to move .0007 or .0008, boom within a .0001 Doesn't make sense but I leave error for tool wear or just any type of error. I think it has been more about trial and error.
  • Not being a smart azz, I'm mean yeah I am a smartazz, but, it just never seemed to work, I want to get these guys as close to Zero as possible, so they don't feel like I'm babysitting them, so the less I see them about parts the better we get along.
  • If you try to justify my way of thinking, it probably would screw you up for life. Rolling eyes
  • well it's all about results. If it works it works!