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Total indicated runout: A test

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So we are trying to establish the best way to measure TOTAL INDICATED RUNOUT. TIR.
We have a 15X22X10 GLOBAL S with a HPSX1 2.5° indexing head and a 5mm x 50mm tip (standard ruby)
We also have a MCMASTER CARR ordered 12'' long Ø1.5 steel bar. Accuracy of this bar isn't terribly critical although I think MMC guarantees less than .001'' over 12''.

We are going to be making parts in our shop sometimes with .0002 TIR and equally tight diameter tolerances.

I have created a basic test to see how accurately and repeatable this machine is.

STEP1: measure the shaft at 0,0 to establish cylinder

STEP 2: at 90,180 measure 1'' of Yminus end using 2 different POINT DENSITY's. 1. @ 6pnt/mm 2 @ 10pnt/mm SCAN SPEED IS 5MM / ACCEL IS 5MM FOR BOTH SETS
(ADAPTIVE CYLINDER CONCENTRIC CIRCLE SCAN)

STEP 3: rinse repeat on Yplus using 90,0
STEP 4: Paste Pattern 10x
STEP 5: REPORT TIR from ymin CYL to yplu CYL for each corresponding speed. For clarity, I am reporting YPLU to YMIN TIR, so i'm just checking end to end)

results are that the lower point density is netting better results by about .0002 (ex 6pnt = TIR .00064 10pnt= TIR .00088)
diameters measure within .0001 each side with both speeds.


THOUGHTS?

(i dont want to MF'ing hear that the CMM isn't the best way to check TIR. i know this. i want to know what i can do on this CMM to achieve the most accurate results. )
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  • If you are going to articulate, absolutely, positively autocalibrate tip after each rotation. Repeatability can be significant, especially on a worn wrist.

    Also: what everyone else was saying, but with exception that CMMs aren't THAT terrible on runout when using a rotary table (but size goes out the window). This doesn't sound like a situation that lets you use one, though.
  • Yes, after every change to either A or B angle. As far as brands, I'd go through Hexagon, so you know it's supported by PC-DMIS and your controller.
    If it's the ideal situation where you can scan with rotary table in motion, drag so the side of the ball is being used, rather than the pole, and "pull" away from the probe. If nothing else, you can eliminate all need for angle changes, usually.
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  • Yes, after every change to either A or B angle. As far as brands, I'd go through Hexagon, so you know it's supported by PC-DMIS and your controller.
    If it's the ideal situation where you can scan with rotary table in motion, drag so the side of the ball is being used, rather than the pole, and "pull" away from the probe. If nothing else, you can eliminate all need for angle changes, usually.
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