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position question, cylinder vs circle, what do you do?

I am currently using PCDMIS 2019 and have a couple questions for the experts.

1.) When measuring position using xact, let's say back to datums A, B, C to keep things simple, do you use a cylinder or a circle? 

2.) When do you use a cylinder? do you only use a cylinder when perpendicularity is called out? when do you use a circle?

3.) When using a cylinder for position, what does "FIT TO DATUMS=ON" mean, and what does "USE AXIS=WORST" mean? In the report window next to the feature name, what does (START PT) mean?

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  • I think there's always the fundamental exception in regard to manufacturing method: CNC, molded, cast, COTS, turned, stamped, etc.
    --As well as what the drawing depicts.

    Example: If you have an injection molded part with a 1" deep drafted cylinder, 0.5" diameter ±0.03" in size allowance "-Draft", with a location tolerance of 0.01 RFS, because the engineers are dumb... My discretion says I could easily measure that as a circle at the top surface, and have little risk.  Why? because the qualified steel in the mold isn't ever going to fail that dimension.  Not for position nor size, unless there's clearly a short or other visibly obvious issue.

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  • I think there's always the fundamental exception in regard to manufacturing method: CNC, molded, cast, COTS, turned, stamped, etc.
    --As well as what the drawing depicts.

    Example: If you have an injection molded part with a 1" deep drafted cylinder, 0.5" diameter ±0.03" in size allowance "-Draft", with a location tolerance of 0.01 RFS, because the engineers are dumb... My discretion says I could easily measure that as a circle at the top surface, and have little risk.  Why? because the qualified steel in the mold isn't ever going to fail that dimension.  Not for position nor size, unless there's clearly a short or other visibly obvious issue.

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