OGP MeasureX vs PC-DMIS Vision

Cant answer you about the camera.
But, if your familiar with PC-DMIS you'll like that much better than OGP software.
We had OGP software and I found alignments cumbersome.
Assignments are almost impossible on the OGP.

PC-DMIS vision has some limitations with profile scans, but overall I find it much better that OGP's software.

Is the MeasureX there most recent software? we have an old smartscope that uses measuremind and measurfit 2 separate programs and it is horrifying to try to use. Then again, it is an old system running 32bit win XP haha

I haven't used MeasureX software from OGP, but have used their MeasureMind software. Honestly, I like PC-DMIS a lot more.

1. I recall MeasureMind didn't remember where parts were located on the glass when the program was closed and re-opened. This became a problem running production on off-shifts, as not many people knew how to operate the machine. With PC-DMIS, the machine remembers the manual alignment, so operators can just plug in and go.

2. Alignments were a nightmare. Especially with offsets.

3. I didn't like the "measure as you go" formatting of the software.

4. Like BKulpa stated, assignments were a no-go.

As for hardware, they seem to be the same. The hardware on both are comparable. The biggest was the software differences and ease of use.

Don't know about OGP...
About PC-DMIS Vision, I use a CMMV_e, which is a camera on a tesastar_m, with a fixed focal distance and a fixed zoom.
Usefull for some measurements, on thin parts, printed circuit boards...
One of the bad side is the angle calibration, you can find on this forum a way to improve it...
If some guys here (american or canadian) wants to purpose this method in "accelerate awards", it's free !!!!!!!

http://www.pcdmisforum.com/forum/pc-dmis-enterprise-metrology-software/pc-dmis-vision/30835-a-little-program-to-improve-cmmv-offsets-calibration

Thanks to all for your opinions, we have 2 OGP's with MeasureX and 17 CMMs (7 shop floor and 10 global with PC-DMIS), I want to convince management to change 4 new vision systems planned for this year to Optivs, the main concern will be a $10,000 dollars price difference between (comparable in size) them.

ah, someone who knows my struggle!!!

Hi jleond. Pcdmis Vision is used on our Optiv product and our range of CMM's with the CMMV on a wrist. If you email me at neil.ryan@hexagon.com, I can provide you with a number of presentations highlighting the added functionality to Pcdmis - Vision over the last few versions. Hopefully these will be of some use in demonstrating the advantages

My last experience with an OGP CMM was 2 ½ years ago, with software MeasureMind 3D MultiSensor version 14.2.37. They have a newer software called Zone3, but I don’t know anything about it. I never used Measure-X either, but the screenshot looks similar to MeasureMind.

Simple measurements on the OGP were much easier. For a circle, focus, select the “Measure Circle” icon then double click on the edge. It will trace the edge as it sees it, then give you the diameter, roundness and location. PC-DMIS needs to know the diameter and location first, before it can measure it. That’s easy to click three points on the edge for a small hole within the field of view, but not so much when the diameter is 200mm.

MeasureMind can follow any edge contour no matter the shape, where PC-DMIS has to be programmed where to look for the edge. That’s where the advantage ends.

All programming steps are numbered in sequence. The features cannot be given a name. If a circle was measured in step 14, then “14 Circle” is its only identifier. If steps are added or deleted before that, then that circle can become identified as “16 Circle” or “10 Circle”.

As stated by others, no assignments and no using results of previous measurements. The version that I used only allowed CAD as a visual reference, not for use in programming.

All reporting must be done in the step where the measurement occurs. All reporting uses the last alignment in the program, not the alignment that was active when the measurement was made. This requires a lot of constructing new features from the measurements done in an earlier alignment.

Going back and trying to change an alignment earlier in a program is about as efficient as rewriting the program from the start. Imaging having the origin and all measurements plotted on a piece of paper. Going back and changing the location of the origin moves that piece of paper to a different location, but the location of all of the measured features does not change in relation to the origin. It’s like a dog chasing its tail.

Descriptions for reporting features are done in a small space that only shows about 16 characters at a time, so scrolling is necessary. It’s limited to a single line and (I think) 32 characters, including spaces. It will let you type in more than that, but it just throws away everything past the 32 character limit.

That’s just a few things. I would have to write a book to cover everything.

Thanks for your comments rickfngp!

Zone 3 is the new one and it overpassed the previous measure mind. If you do not have a really good programmer zone 3 will be useful.