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Translating/Rotating CAD

I pulled this from a previous post of mine and added a bit to it.

The following is all done through the transform window in the graphics menu. No need to select points off of CAD or anything else before rotating/translating wherever you want.

When in transform, you can choose to translate to a single surface. Click the "Select" box in the translate area of the rotate/translate dialog box. You have several options, including (I think) point 1, point 2, and checkboxes for X,Y,Z. Deselect the x and y checkboxes, ignore everything else, and click on the surface you want to set your z origin to. (Assuming you want it to be Z origin. Click ok to exit the box, and click apply.

To do a 3D translation, go into the same thing and click on a corner point. It should grab it. If it doesn't grab it first time, you need to click in the dialog box to tell it you are reselecting point 1, because otherwise it changes so your next click on CAD will be point 2.

The only time you would select a point 2 would be if you are translating by an increment on the cad model, such as a step height.

To rotate, you follow similar instructions, but you need a point 2 to build the line you are going to rotate to.

Hope this helps. It took me a looong time to understand the CAD rotate/translate options.
  • What version of PCDMIS has a "Select" box to click on? Not found on 4.1 when I bring up the transform feature.

    I transform cad quite a bit but it's always using dims from points clicked on the cad model surface.

    Raymond
  • This is using V4.3 and V4.4 (2009). Can you just list the boxes you have in the transform dialog box? Maybe I goofed when I said "Select" Box?
  • Transform box

    None that apply to selecting features from the screen.

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  • Darn, I think you're SOL. Wow, 4.1 is pretty limited.
  • Chally72,

    I have learned much about CAD Transform as well. It is very helpful. However, I was wondering if something was possible in CAD Transform.

    I have some parts that have to be measured off a fixture. So, In the past I have programed these parts the old fashioned way by purely using the Fixture and Part drawings. Now, I want to check different variation's of similar parts with the same fixture. It would be nice to import a CAD after the Fixture alighnment and then use the CAD Offline to measure all the features.

    Problems: When I import my CAD models I can transform the origin but it refernces to the startup alignment of the machine. The long way of doing this would be to take the alignment of the Fixture from the machine cordinates and transform the CAD in those coresponding offsets.

    Is there a way to import a CAD in the middle of a program so that the program's current alignment will be the imported CAD origin?
  • It should be as simple as importing the CAD model AFTER your fixture alignment, and translating/rotating it so the Coordinate system matches the physical features you just made the alignment with. This of course means that those first features are not bound to CAD, and represent only a rough alignment to get you close enough to start grabbing fixture datums for a final alignment. It's harder than it has to be.

    For fixtures, here's what I do-

    I have a square at the front of the CMM that I corner fixtures in. Most of our fixtures are 3/4" thick baseplates with a bunch of towers with pins on them. I corner the fixture in that square on the CMM. I have a program template saved that I start every job with. Open, save as part name. In this template I recall an external alignment created with the square that puts my origin at the granite and in the corner of the square.

    When I bring in my CAD model to the program now, I am bringing it into this template which already recalled this external alignment. Now I just need to translate the model to the corner of the fixture that will be sitting in the square. Done. I can immediately start measuring off the CAD model with no "Non-CAD" points involved in an initial alignment.

    Hope this helps.
  • Darn, I think you're SOL. Wow, 4.1 is pretty limited.


    Stay away from v4.1. Every shrink I've been to says so. Moving away from v4.1 got me off the meds as well.
  • Chally72,

    Thanks for the tip. Great idea about the fixture! I will work on doing that. I was still having trouble with importing the CAD as I desired before. So, In my CAD software I designed the fixture as a CAD model with the important features and then made an assembly by importing the part, then saved it as one part. Then I took the new part file (fixture and part together) and imported that into PC-Dmis. This idea seems to be working out at the moment.

    Thanks