Sma

carr: Them clothes got laundry numbers on them. You remember your number and always wear the ones that has your number. Any man forgets his number spends a night in the box. These here spoons you keep with you. Any man loses his spoon spends a night in the box. There's no playing grab-*** or fighting in the building. You got a grudge against another man, you fight him saturday afternoon. Any man playing grab-*** or fighting in the building spends a night in the box. First bell's at five minutes of eight when you will get in your bunk. Last bell is at eight. Any man not in his bunk at eight spends the night in the box. There is no smoking in the prone position in bed. To smoke you must have both legs over the side of your bunk. Any man caught smoking in the prone position in bed... Spends a night in the box. You get two sheets. Every saturday, you put the clean sheet on the top... The top sheet on the bottom... And the bottom sheet you turn in to the laundry boy. Any man turns in the wrong sheet spends a night in the box. No one'll sit in the bunks with dirty pants on. Any man with dirty pants on sitting on the bunks spends a night in the box. Any man don't bring back his empty pop bottle spends a night in the box. Any man loud talking spends a night in the box. You got questions, you come to me. I'm carr, the floor walker. I'm responsible for order in here. Any man don't keep order spends a night in...
Luke: [in the box]
carr: I hope you enjoy this hard one.
Luke: [pull his pants down with a big grin across his face]…..oooooh!

You were right, I am laughing, but sadly not on the way to the bank. Every day Wes, I help people directly on the phone, in email, at their places of work, because it's my job. You're right, I do show up at the forum when people are harassing others here. It's sad that an open place to have discourse about a software becomes a place where people are afraid to come. It's my job to make sure that doesn't happen either, and I come when users tell me that the bullies have gotten out of control. Whatever happened in your life to make you not believe that some people are actually good, I feel sorry for you. I'll help others and you and I can just stay out of each others way. I'll try not to have humor or be too good around you. Thanks.

And for transparency, YES I am moderating Zastrow's posts, because I don't believe he is being sincere. He can PM me or other admin/mods if he thinks that I'm being unfair.

Bottom line is that the bugs in PC-DMIS are NOT "break-downs". What they ARE is known issues that the software was released with.
My Pontiac G6 had a known steering column issue, it has been recalled and repaired.
The Maintenance Releases of PC-DMIS compare more favorably with the recall than with the in or out of warranty repair.

A non-covered repair is if *I* screw the software up.
A covered repair is if *YOU* screw the software up.
#1 is a repair
#2 is a recall
Maintenance releases are a recall.

We can probably manage to mostly stay out of each other's way.

But for "the official record", (not that it does much good when you and your ilk can rewrite the digital history at will), I wish to point out that you are in fact not back this time because of bullies, (presumably like me), speaking the unvarnished truth. If that were your true purpose you would have shown up weeks if not months earlier. You are here because a number of folks began talking about problems they were finding in version 2011, the newest bundle of dookie shoved out the door under the "one major release per year" policy. This forum erupted into a virtual riot because the storm troopers laid waste to those posts, and banned respected forum members, like Sherman marching to the Sea. That's when you were sworn in as Admin Sheriff Gudauskas and began teaching those chumps in D.C. how a pro can spin.

Last year I figured Xactmeasure had finally been around long enough it might be usable. The potential had me excited. I was defending pc-dmis on this forum. Then I found that despite it having rolled out with 4.0 it is still very much a work in progress. And unfortunately it appears that Hexagon/Wilcox isn't nearly as interested in leading the industry as they are in collecting SMAs.


What I really don't understand is why you and your company will not officially admit what everyone knows and take the one real concrete step available to fix to the problem. Namely stop requiring Wilcox to push out a Major release every year while at the same time trying to patch up and fix all the stuff wrong in the last Major release that was pushed out before it was ready. The only answer that makes any sense is that you are scared people will stop paying the SMA. I think anyone who would do that already is, and is probably running the last really good version you made, 3.7MR3/4. Most of your customers, like myself and the company I work for will pay the SMA every year because we want the phone tech support when we need it and we want access to the new versions that actually are worth the effort to download and install. Computers and operating systems have a limited lifespan. Eventually even those who would prefer not to will have to keep up with the technology treadmill. There would be much less pc-dmis "bashing" if there was one Major release every 3-5 years, with each one of them was on a par with 3.2063 or 3.7MR3 and none of them another 3.6 or 4.0.


Are you really so far in denial you honestly believe that isn't the issue that brought you back? I don't think so. I think your real purpose is to spin and polish and misdirect until the natives settle down again. I am not sure that is going to happen this time. It is not your skills at mollification that are lacking. It is simply that too many of us are much too frustrated.

PcDlrn has encountered errors and will shut down now.

We can probably manage to mostly stay out of each other's way.

But for "the official record", (not that it does much good when you and your ilk can rewrite the digital history at will), I wish to point out that you are in fact not back this time because of bullies, (presumably like me), speaking the unvarnished truth. If that were your true purpose you would have shown up weeks if not months earlier. You are here because a number of folks began talking about problems they were finding in version 2011, the newest bundle of dookie shoved out the door under the "one major release per year" policy. This forum erupted into a virtual riot because the storm troopers laid waste to those posts, and banned respected forum members, like Sherman marching to the Sea. That's when you were sworn in as Admin Sheriff Gudauskas and began teaching those chumps in D.C. how a pro can spin.

Last year I figured Xactmeasure had finally been around long enough it might be usable. The potential had me excited. I was defending pc-dmis on this forum. Then I found that despite it having rolled out with 4.0 it is still very much a work in progress. And unfortunately it appears that Hexagon/Wilcox isn't nearly as interested in leading the industry as they are in collecting SMAs.


What I really don't understand is why you and your company will not officially admit what everyone knows and take the one real concrete step available to fix to the problem. Namely stop requiring Wilcox to push out a Major release every year while at the same time trying to patch up and fix all the stuff wrong in the last Major release that was pushed out before it was ready. The only answer that makes any sense is that you are scared people will stop paying the SMA. I think anyone who would do that already is, and is probably running the last really good version you made, 3.7MR3/4. Most of your customers, like myself and the company I work for will pay the SMA every year because we want the phone tech support when we need it and we want access to the new versions that actually are worth the effort to download and install. Computers and operating systems have a limited lifespan. Eventually even those who would prefer not to will have to keep up with the technology treadmill. There would be much less pc-dmis "bashing" if there was one Major release every 3-5 years, with each one of them was on a par with 3.2063 or 3.7MR3 and none of them another 3.6 or 4.0.


Are you really so far in denial you honestly believe that isn't the issue that brought you back? I don't think so. I think your real purpose is to spin and polish and misdirect until the natives settle down again. I am not sure that is going to happen this time. It is not your skills at mollification that are lacking. It is simply that too many of us are much too frustrated.

PcDlrn has encountered errors and will shut down now.

Brian,

I don't openly comment about this much. Remember that many (if not all) of us "users" work for companies that make parts that go on planes, trains and automobiles. Also parts that go on numerous things that people trust thier lives in. If we, as the Quality person, knowingly accept a non-conformance, we put peoples lives at risk.
If our company ships a part, and a week later we discover that something wasn't right, we may recall it. We may not, but a thorough explanation is given to the customer. If they want to return it for replacement, it's their right.
If a design issue or prolem comes up a few years later..... same thing. It's the MORALLY right thing to do.
You don't make parts, but you (Hexagon) supply a software that helps us to verify that we (or our companies) use that software to verify that product. If your software fails and we ship a non-conforming product, isn't it your responsiility to fix it?

John M. Kingston