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PC-DMIS to CALYPSO

I just got a job offer for a company that is using PC-DMIS now but is switching over to ZEISS CYLYPSO. It sounds like they are prepared to spend some money on training and I was hoping to hear from anyone who has done this.
Is there a big learning curve?
Is CYLYPSO a big difference?
What were the biggest hurdles you encountered?
Is one software easier to learn the other?
Any thoughts and information is appreciated.
Thanks.
  • For years I stayed away from this forum because I didn't think it would help but I was wrong. A lot of good people on here and a lot of good advice.
    An occasional knuckle head here and there but otherwise its been nice so far.
    Thank you
  • don't be afraid of leaving your comfort zone
  • Im usually not in every other aspect of my life but for some reason I am. I am going to follow this one through and if its where im suppose to be, I will end up there.
    Thanks for the push
  • Comparing Calypso and PC-DMIS is like comparing day to night. Completely different philosophies. I can't stress this enough. There is no code window. Honestly, they couldn't be more different. Basically, you just need to forget how pcdmis works and learn a new way. Same is true for people going from calypso to pcdmis. Well, alignments are basically the same - you can't change the fact that 6 degrees of freedom exist. However, multiple alignments will be discouraged in your initial training. (not kidding)

    Thing to remember is that good metrology/measurement practice isn't enforced by any software. That's the hardest part of the job to learn, and the most important. If you've got that, you'll be fine. Just have to learn to drive the nail with a different hammer.

    I'll say this: ​​​I used Calypso for around 5 years, and now pcdmis for 10 years. I still haven't found a way to create programs as quickly in pc-dmis as I could in calypso. Pc-dmis workflow is inefficient and just stinks (my opinion).

    Best of luck to you!


  • I'll say this: ​​​I used Calypso for around 5 years, and now pcdmis for 10 years. I still haven't found a way to create programs as quickly in pc-dmis as I could in calypso. Pc-dmis workflow is inefficient and just stinks (my opinion).

    Best of luck to you!


    oh!! how dare you!?!?!


    Stuck out tongue closed eyes
  • The two major differences I have seen are 3D lines, in Calapso they are not 3D lines as in PC-DMIS (I never did find out their purpose) you use 2D lines for most everything and their alignments are very limited with respect to the amount of constructed features allowed in a single alignment. Also, I work next to Calapso every day and compared to PC-DMIS it is very slow and cumbersome software to use.
  • I have used Calypso before and found that its nowhere as user friendly as PC-DMIS. To me, Verisurf and Metrologic Silma x4 was far more easier to use than Calypso. Good luck Bro!!
  • Thanks everyone. I am not sure if this will pan out or not, but I thought I would ask.
  • Salesmen. That's why they are switching. They talk to the guy with the checkbook and convince them how much better 1 is than the other. As far as Ziess go, top notch all the way. I was at the Factory a few years a go when we had the insanity of thinking of even switching over. We started a new division and that boss thought it was a better deal for a Ziess. Maybe it was but being all the people we had know DMIS and DMIS only so it was a looooong painfull 2 years for him. So since he bought one the higher ups here at our division were considering the same thing so we could support him..( should have bought a B&S like we have so we could support him with our eyes closed..) . Nevermind the insanely large number of programs/parts we have here to maybe convert over to a new software ( years probably) . They had an ex Wilcox guy working on a "converter" to make DMIS into Calypso.....I think it went not very far and he now works for Hexagon ( again, kind of ?)

    GOOD LUCK !
  • I've done 4 different CMM software packages. They all measure points lines and circles and do alignments. There are always things about each software to really like and things that make you wonder what kind of drugs they were on. After the second software, I realized that it was mostly a matter of figuring out where the button was hidden at this time. You do have to watch definitions of terms. You'll get told well this on our software is kinda like that on your old software. That's not always true enough for you to do things using your old methods