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Vaccine Conversation Today

Was in a production meeting waiting for it to start. People were talking about random things and of course "Covid" gets brought up. (please realize the irony that I am in a closed & unventilated room with these people..because they were willing to share their vaccine status they get to be maskless...because i refuse to share my status they assume i am not vaccinated and therefore force me to wear a mask).

Production Assistant: "Hey, did you all notice how its literally ONLY the engineers and programmers who don't want to get vaccinated? Why is that?"

Machinist: "They have critical thinking skills. Most of the people here (motioning to the room) do what they're told at work and in life".

Room went dead silent, a few people chuckled, am starting to get really turned off by people. =/ Was very uncomfortable sitting there as a "second class" employee with a mask on.
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  • Ok guys, I've gotta be a bit logical here. because that's how I am. Logical.

    #1. The @georgiaparkerhilton image above is absolutely bonkers. If you actually understand how clinical trials work for FDA approval, the vaccines did complete three of four phases of clinical trials. The fourth phase is in fact to assess long term efficacy and reactions to the treatment, and yes it obviously does require baseline populations. However, think logically here guys. there's literally billions of people in over a hundred countries without a single effective vaccine doled out yet. Do you really believe that's the goal? hogwash. Anyone in the word can be a control subject, and we are talking about phase 4 clinical trials typically having sample sets in the tens -to- hundreds of thousands, not 46% of the population of the United States (that's over 150million people unvaccinated at this moment).

    #2: I can't disagree with the fact that there's a money trail. I also can't disagree that there's anterior motives to this whole COVID deal. What it absolutely is not, is political or separatist.
    --Ultimately, in my opinion, COVID is the elite's effort at population control. The politics, the medical companies, the talking heads in the media splitting the nation/world into classes it's all a natural response to the elite's effort to control population. They (the elites) believe population control is the only answer to preventing societal collapse, and ultimately the collapse of mankind. Less mouths to feed equals, lower carbon footprint, longer time this ball is going to sustain life.

    #3: Drug manufacturers obviously benefit financially from this, but they aren't producing a vaccine for a virus, just for 'ish and giggles'. Nor are they doing it with nefarious reasons. They are legitimately attempting to save lives. Which I mean, hard numbers reported globally, do not lie. The vaccines (generic term here, for any treatments being produced and distributed by any country or manufacturer WORLDWIDE) are saving lives. Any clinical and proven effective treatment should be considered to save your life and the lives of those whom you love. Now, if you go and start eating horse-doses of ivermectin, injecting or consuming bleach, or any other of these crackpot unproven methods... That's just another contribution to the elite's agenda, but simply by means of 'natural selection' (you're so dumb you kill/critically injure yourself).

    I'm sure my perspective is not in alignment with many agendas and societal norms. IDGAF. My perspective is my own, and a result of my own extensive observing, and fact checking. You don't like it? Cool, I respect you and your perspectives as well. But please don't be a parrot/sheeple by pushing separatist, political, or patently false information.


    #1. While I agree with you on the control group being crazy... I don't believe that you can compare people from the opposite side of the world from yourself and call them the control group. Even within the united states there are illnesses and ailments that effect people of different ethnicity and illness from geographical location as well. It would be a sloppy control group scientifically.

    #2. I agree. I hate saying I agree because I feel crazy saying it but I agree.

    #3. While I agree that they are trying to save lives with the vaccine I believe they are misrepresenting the necessity of a vaccine and undervaluing the actual need for prescription drugs prescribed by a doctor. If you go to front line doctors . org you can be prescribed proven effective drugs that diminish hospitalizations by 80%. If they were prescribed for everyone who is diagnosed with covid this would be an entirely different "pandimic"
  • for #1 regardless of the global population of unvaccinated, we still have >150million of a 'control group'. Even if 90% of the current unvaccinated US population gets the 'poke', it still leaves 15 million unvaccinated as eligible for a control group.

    So, the simple fact remains that the "@georgiaparkerhilton image above is absolutely bonkers".

    For #3, dude, a VAST MAJORITY of covid hospital patients are UNVACCINATED. Seems like whichever method you use for vaccination, it helps.
    Hard numbers, since we like numbers here: (unvax = 431/10,000 vs vax = 26/10,000) that equates to a 4.3% chance of being hospitalized unvaccinated, vs a 0.26% chance if vaccinated. That's 16x higher risk of getting sent to a hospital if unvaccinated.

    Oh and this is just about you at this moment. Could you stomach giving COVID to someone who is more vulnerable in your family, or work group, or friends? Then they maybe dying after contracting it from you? yes it's all hypothetical... but it's reality.
    https://www.sciencenews.org/article/covid-coronavirus-vaccines-hospital-cases-rates-unvaccinated
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  • for #1 regardless of the global population of unvaccinated, we still have >150million of a 'control group'. Even if 90% of the current unvaccinated US population gets the 'poke', it still leaves 15 million unvaccinated as eligible for a control group.

    So, the simple fact remains that the "@georgiaparkerhilton image above is absolutely bonkers".

    For #3, dude, a VAST MAJORITY of covid hospital patients are UNVACCINATED. Seems like whichever method you use for vaccination, it helps.
    Hard numbers, since we like numbers here: (unvax = 431/10,000 vs vax = 26/10,000) that equates to a 4.3% chance of being hospitalized unvaccinated, vs a 0.26% chance if vaccinated. That's 16x higher risk of getting sent to a hospital if unvaccinated.

    Oh and this is just about you at this moment. Could you stomach giving COVID to someone who is more vulnerable in your family, or work group, or friends? Then they maybe dying after contracting it from you? yes it's all hypothetical... but it's reality.
    https://www.sciencenews.org/article/covid-coronavirus-vaccines-hospital-cases-rates-unvaccinated
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