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Was in a production meeting waiting for it to start. People were talking about random things and of course "Covid" gets brought up. (please realize the irony that I am in a closed & unventilated room with these people..because they were willing to share their vaccine status they get to be maskless...because i refuse to share my status they assume i am not vaccinated and therefore force me to wear a mask).

Production Assistant: "Hey, did you all notice how its literally ONLY the engineers and programmers who don't want to get vaccinated? Why is that?"

Machinist: "They have critical thinking skills. Most of the people here (motioning to the room) do what they're told at work and in life".

Room went dead silent, a few people chuckled, am starting to get really turned off by people. =/ Was very uncomfortable sitting there as a "second class" employee with a mask on.
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  • Wanna talk facts and data? There are over 286 trials with 4,610 scientists and 411,347 patients all showing that using Hydroxychloroquine ALONE in the early stages of infection reduce hospitalizations by 64%. 75% decrease in mortality. But if not treated early the percentages drop drastically. HCQ is already used to treat a variety of illnesses and is already FDA approved. Why is this not being reported? With a total of 4,665,684 deaths if we had been prescribing HCQ with each positive test there would only be 1,166,421 deaths. That's a totally different situation.

    and those numbers don't include other drugs that can be prescribed with these drugs that could also reduce symptoms and decrease mortality.


    4,665,684 is global death count. The United States does not have any control of COVID deaths outside of the United States. We've only had 682,569 deaths in the USA.

    What you are doing, by applying a basic percentage of efficacy for treatment of a specific symptom of COVID, isn't going to broad-stroke apply to the number of deaths, as COVID is multi-symptomatic, and of course comorbidities I'm sure would continue to erode that percentage of deaths regardless of HCQ treatment a it highest efficacy. Plus, HCQ's discovery of effectiveness on COVID I can guarantee you didn't happen on day one, when morbidity rates were highest.

    Your association with HCQ treatment and its' hindsight ability to save 3.5 million lives isn't in any way probable logical or accurate, EVEN if it was discovered on day one. I hope HCQ and all other treatments get FDA approval as soon as possible, but until then doctors need to comply with their code of conduct.
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  • Wanna talk facts and data? There are over 286 trials with 4,610 scientists and 411,347 patients all showing that using Hydroxychloroquine ALONE in the early stages of infection reduce hospitalizations by 64%. 75% decrease in mortality. But if not treated early the percentages drop drastically. HCQ is already used to treat a variety of illnesses and is already FDA approved. Why is this not being reported? With a total of 4,665,684 deaths if we had been prescribing HCQ with each positive test there would only be 1,166,421 deaths. That's a totally different situation.

    and those numbers don't include other drugs that can be prescribed with these drugs that could also reduce symptoms and decrease mortality.


    4,665,684 is global death count. The United States does not have any control of COVID deaths outside of the United States. We've only had 682,569 deaths in the USA.

    What you are doing, by applying a basic percentage of efficacy for treatment of a specific symptom of COVID, isn't going to broad-stroke apply to the number of deaths, as COVID is multi-symptomatic, and of course comorbidities I'm sure would continue to erode that percentage of deaths regardless of HCQ treatment a it highest efficacy. Plus, HCQ's discovery of effectiveness on COVID I can guarantee you didn't happen on day one, when morbidity rates were highest.

    Your association with HCQ treatment and its' hindsight ability to save 3.5 million lives isn't in any way probable logical or accurate, EVEN if it was discovered on day one. I hope HCQ and all other treatments get FDA approval as soon as possible, but until then doctors need to comply with their code of conduct.
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