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Vaccine Conversation Today

Was in a production meeting waiting for it to start. People were talking about random things and of course "Covid" gets brought up. (please realize the irony that I am in a closed & unventilated room with these people..because they were willing to share their vaccine status they get to be maskless...because i refuse to share my status they assume i am not vaccinated and therefore force me to wear a mask).

Production Assistant: "Hey, did you all notice how its literally ONLY the engineers and programmers who don't want to get vaccinated? Why is that?"

Machinist: "They have critical thinking skills. Most of the people here (motioning to the room) do what they're told at work and in life".

Room went dead silent, a few people chuckled, am starting to get really turned off by people. =/ Was very uncomfortable sitting there as a "second class" employee with a mask on.
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  • My 0.02cents:

    Due to time constraints & pressure to release their vaccines, vaccine manufacturers could not put their vaccines through all of the traditional long term FDA testing. Because of this, the vaccine manufacturers required that Congress invoke the PREP Act (to shield them from lawsuits if any long term side effects pop up). They refused to release their vaccines until this condition was met & Congress did it.

    With the above being said...
    Anyone who forces a vaccine into the body of the general public is on the wrong side of history & should be ashamed of themselves. Full stop no exceptions.

    I am fully vaccinated & hope other get it as well. That said, i was totally against being forced to do it (especially given the legal sketchyness of the whole release).

    Politicians:
    Only have the ability to micromanage our daily lives down to the amount of lights on your car of whether or not your selt-belt is done up due to the fact that we the people have allowed them to do so. I vote conservative every chance I get, this s#it isn't my fault I assure you Sunglasses
    If we're not careful they'll be forcing untested vaccines into your body next. They sure as h3ll tried to do it over the past year.
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  • My 0.02cents:

    Due to time constraints & pressure to release their vaccines, vaccine manufacturers could not put their vaccines through all of the traditional long term FDA testing. Because of this, the vaccine manufacturers required that Congress invoke the PREP Act (to shield them from lawsuits if any long term side effects pop up). They refused to release their vaccines until this condition was met & Congress did it.

    With the above being said...
    Anyone who forces a vaccine into the body of the general public is on the wrong side of history & should be ashamed of themselves. Full stop no exceptions.

    I am fully vaccinated & hope other get it as well. That said, i was totally against being forced to do it (especially given the legal sketchyness of the whole release).

    Politicians:
    Only have the ability to micromanage our daily lives down to the amount of lights on your car of whether or not your selt-belt is done up due to the fact that we the people have allowed them to do so. I vote conservative every chance I get, this s#it isn't my fault I assure you Sunglasses
    If we're not careful they'll be forcing untested vaccines into your body next. They sure as h3ll tried to do it over the past year.
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  • https://www.dailywire.com/news/cdc-blasted-after-withholding-data-over-fears-of-vax-appearing-ineffective

    "Medical experts slammed the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention after the agency admitted to withholding a significant amount of data collected on COVID-19 vaccines from the public.

    The CDC refused to publish “large portions” of data gathered on COVID-19 vaccines over concerns that it would be “misinterpreted,” according to The New York Times. CDC spokeswoman Kristen Nordlund said that the fear of misrepresentation, along with several other factors, led the government health agency to withhold the information.

    Nordlund also said that the data was withheld “because basically, at the end of the day, it’s not yet ready for prime time.”

    The CDC, which played a key role in shaping the U.S. COVID-19 response, kept under wraps data regarding the efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines, especially in younger cohorts. The omission forced health and medical experts outside the agency to make recommendations based on Israeli data instead. The Times reported:
    The performance of vaccines and boosters, particularly in younger adults, is among the most glaring omissions in data the C.D.C. has made public.

    Last year, the agency repeatedly came under fire for not tracking so-called breakthrough infections in vaccinated Americans, and focusing only on individuals who became ill enough to be hospitalized or die. The agency presented that information as risk comparisons with unvaccinated adults, rather than provide timely snapshots of hospitalized patients stratified by age, sex, race and vaccination status.

    But the C.D.C. has been routinely collecting information since the Covid vaccines were first rolled out last year, according to a federal official familiar with the effort. The agency has been reluctant to make those figures public, the official said, because they might be misinterpreted as the vaccines being ineffective.

    Ms. Nordlund confirmed that as one of the reasons. Another reason, she said, is that the data represents only 10 percent of the population of the United States. But the C.D.C. has relied on the same level of sampling to track influenza for years.

    “The CDC’s response when questioned about their withholding of Covid data and lack of transparency is essentially ‘we don’t trust you to be able to understand the truth,’” radiologist and Fox News contributor Nicole Saphier tweeted. “The condescension is palpable. The wheels are finally coming off.”

    “People who have blindly trusted the CDC the last 2 years are about to have their world turned upside down as the lack of transparency and manipulation of data become undeniably evident,” she added.

    University of California professor Vinay Prasad posted: “All I know is: if you read the studies they are publishing, the reason they aren’t sharing this data is absolutely not that they want to get the analysis right.”

    Responding to Prasad, Johns Hopkins’ Marty Makary added: “We’ve been saying this for over a year, but when the NYT discovers what’s happening, then some start to pay attention.”