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Actual emails between myself and our HR rep.
Our company as a whole has been having a lot of run ins with this lady and I am fed up with it. This is my second negative interaction with her in just a few weeks and she has been here less than 2 months.
Let me preface this with my standard work day is 10 hours and I had just put in a PTO slip to leave at lunch one day in the following week.
Work - 6:00am - 11:30am (5.5 hours)
Unpaid Lunch 11:30am - 12:00pm
Work 12:00pm - 4:30pm (4.5 hours)
Hi J,
Your request for 5 hours (11:30am – 4:30pm) of PTO on Thursday April 14, 2022 is approved.
_______________________________
Hello HR,
Thank you. Just wanted to confirm that will be paid as 4.5 hours PTO though because typically from 11:30-12:00 I am at lunch.
Best,
____________________________
Hello J,
Unfortunately, no, if you are leaving at 11:30am then you should clock out completely for the day. Remember, lunch is required when you work 6 hours or more and your shift starts at 6am. I have taken the liberty of modifying your absence request from 4.5 to 5 hours.
____________________________
*cc'd owner 1, owner2, my manager, and our GM.*
Hey HR,
That morning I will not be working 6 hours, I will be working 5.5 hours + 4.5 hours PTO to equal 10 hours total.
If the PTO is for 5 hours I will have 40.5 hours for the week.
Best,
____________________________
J,
I’m aware that you aren’t working 6 hours. I merely stated that if you are working 6 hours or more that lunch is required . Correct it is 4.5 hours of PTO. *gaslighting me* Also, it was unnecessary for you to copy Owner1 and Owner2 on this thread. I see exactly what you are doing. I know my job and going forward don’t undermine me in that way.*she isn't my manager*
____________________________
Respectfully,
That is not what you said in the email. You stated, “I have taken the liberty of modifying your absence request from 4.5 to 5 hours.” when the correct request is for 4.5 hours.
I did not mean to undermine you in any way, I simply CC’d Owner1 and Owner2 for transparency in our conversation as well as their potential feedback.
I don’t appreciate the accusation of “seeing exactly what I am doing… going forward don’t undermine me in that way”.
I think there is a kinder way to talk to the employees of this company.
Best,
____________________________
(We then had a sit-down meeting with my manager and one of the owners where she apologized)
Actual emails between myself and our HR rep.
Our company as a whole has been having a lot of run ins with this lady and I am fed up with it. This is my second negative interaction with her in just a few weeks and she has been here less than 2 months.
Let me preface this with my standard work day is 10 hours and I had just put in a PTO slip to leave at lunch one day in the following week.
Work - 6:00am - 11:30am (5.5 hours)
Unpaid Lunch 11:30am - 12:00pm
Work 12:00pm - 4:30pm (4.5 hours)
Hi J,
Your request for 5 hours (11:30am – 4:30pm) of PTO on Thursday April 14, 2022 is approved.
_______________________________
Hello HR,
Thank you. Just wanted to confirm that will be paid as 4.5 hours PTO though because typically from 11:30-12:00 I am at lunch.
Best,
____________________________
Hello J,
Unfortunately, no, if you are leaving at 11:30am then you should clock out completely for the day. Remember, lunch is required when you work 6 hours or more and your shift starts at 6am. I have taken the liberty of modifying your absence request from 4.5 to 5 hours.
____________________________
*cc'd owner 1, owner2, my manager, and our GM.*
Hey HR,
That morning I will not be working 6 hours, I will be working 5.5 hours + 4.5 hours PTO to equal 10 hours total.
If the PTO is for 5 hours I will have 40.5 hours for the week.
Best,
____________________________
J,
I’m aware that you aren’t working 6 hours. I merely stated that if you are working 6 hours or more that lunch is required . Correct it is 4.5 hours of PTO. *gaslighting me* Also, it was unnecessary for you to copy Owner1 and Owner2 on this thread. I see exactly what you are doing. I know my job and going forward don’t undermine me in that way.*she isn't my manager*
____________________________
Respectfully,
That is not what you said in the email. You stated, “I have taken the liberty of modifying your absence request from 4.5 to 5 hours.” when the correct request is for 4.5 hours.
I did not mean to undermine you in any way, I simply CC’d Owner1 and Owner2 for transparency in our conversation as well as their potential feedback.
I don’t appreciate the accusation of “seeing exactly what I am doing… going forward don’t undermine me in that way”.
I think there is a kinder way to talk to the employees of this company.
Best,
____________________________
(We then had a sit-down meeting with my manager and one of the owners where she apologized)
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