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Hiring Requirements/Test to weed out incompatibility

cheesiechanman
Alright Gentlemen and Female Gentlemen I need some guidance/help. Ill lay the frame work of the situation....

I am the programmer currently and have trained the individual.. lets call her H... who was intended to be my replacement (after I take my promotion to be head of the department) a little bit here and there over the course of a year...... And you all know as well as i do... some people aren't cut out for this job.

Now I talked with my boss and he is in agreement about the situation. We need someone else to take this role. So there will be a job opening for the position for more money than you're average Joe. H is gonna want that position but she is not cut out for it. No problem solving. minimal computer skills. no excel. no programming. no enthusiasm. difficulty understanding simpler things like workplanes and vectors. etc.

Now I need to make a test that will not depend on seniority but highlight the key aspects of a to be programmer. But GD&T/programming knowledge wont be a criteria. Must promote from within.

So there is the situation. I need to find the best candidate who is not the person I have trained for a year. How can I create a test/requirements to get the person I want/need to be in this situation. Its a very political situation that must at the very least seem to be a fair shot to everyone who meets the requirements. Neutral faceNeutral faceNeutral face


Question #1. What is the centermost point of the universe?
  • I could come over and take your promotion and you could stay put, right where you're at, Sound good?
  • First thing I always ask is "What's the formula for a position?" 99.99% of the time a part is asking for location, at least you know right off the bat, what you have to work with.
  • in reply to KIRBSTER269
    Ya know... That solves all of my problems. Too bad I know its unreasonable.... The job I'm getting promoted into is a very busy job. And unfortunately it will leave no time for you to police the Forum. I simply cannot do that to everyone who frequents the forum lol.
  • First thing I always ask is "What's the formula for a position?" 99.99% of the time a part is asking for location, at least you know right off the bat, what you have to work with.

    Most likely this individual will need to be taught from the ground up. They wont know what a position is. The people who will be targeted for promotion are general operators who run machines mindlessly.


  • question #1. What is the centermost point of the universe?

    PNT31. I'm hired!
  • Create a square block with three holes in it. Apply some Datums with basic true positions, flatness, parallelism, and a couple linears. Create a CAD model of this block.

    Have potential candidates write an offline program, execute the program online, then physically measure the part on the plate.

    Score them on:
    1) Accuracy of results (you of course already know what measurements should be)
    2) Software proficiency
    3) Surface plate/layout proficiency (give them all manual gages..none of the fancy digital ones)
    4) Come up with a quick (10 question or less) "Shop Math Test" that asks them: how to use true position formula, how to use a sine plate, question about vectors & basically what they mean, MAYBE some basic SOHCAHTOA if you wanna be a hard@ss Rolling eyes
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    Describe a time when you used a creative solution to tackle some job-related problem.

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    Give us an example of a situation when you realized that you won’t be able to meet the set deadline. What did you do?

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    What do you do in a situation when you cannot seem to find the right solution to a problem?

    When you are faced with an urgent problem, how do you react? Are you the type of person who jumps right into solving problem, or do you first carefully assess the situation?

    What experience do you have with word and spreadsheet processing?

    Can you think in 3 dimensional space? If I showed you this print, can you visualize the part in your head looking at it in 2D?
  • in reply to bfire85
    This here is a solid response. Right along the lines of simplicity that highlights the desired characteristics without requiring any depth of knowledge related to programming. I'm using most of this list and also including a few more like...

    Can you identify patterns or relationships between two things that are ultimately not the same. etc.
  • What was the most stressful situation you faced at work? How did you handle it?

    Describe a situation at work when you were faced with a problem you could not solve. What did you do?

    Are you the type of person who will always try to solve the problem on your own before asking for help?

    Describe a time when you used a creative solution to tackle some job-related problem.

    How do you cope when you face a challenge you’ve never previously experienced?

    Give us an example of a situation when you realized that you won’t be able to meet the set deadline. What did you do?

    How do you build a troubleshooting process?

    In your opinion, what makes you a great problem solver?

    What do you do in a situation when you cannot seem to find the right solution to a problem?

    When you are faced with an urgent problem, how do you react? Are you the type of person who jumps right into solving problem, or do you first carefully assess the situation?

    What experience do you have with word and spreadsheet processing?

    Can you think in 3 dimensional space? If I showed you this print, can you visualize the part in your head looking at it in 2D?

    My response "You ask to many questions."


  • now i need to make a test that will not depend on seniority but highlight the key aspects of a to be programmer. But gd&t/programming knowledge wont be a criteria. Must promote from within.





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