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Scan results different from keyed-in points

I have a part with a very tight profile tolerance (form+location) of .0005. I wrote a program with a model and aligned to all 3 datums.

I keyed in gage points and read the vectors from the model. Part is out of tolerance (which I expected) by about .001, the profile being off center.

Next I added a linear TTP scan along the same section where I probed the gage points. The scan shows deviations up to .018!Confused Same program, same part, same alignment.

What could I be doing wrong with my scan to get a result that differs so much from my keyed-in points?
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  • After creating a handful of different programs (and comparing results from different alignment strategies), my problem is pretty consistent: profiles from keyed-in points are showing different results from profiles of a scan. The results are similar, but deviations appear exaggerated during the scan (TTP). I had the engineer look at my results, and he basically told me that since it was a test part we would let them go for now. Problem delayed, not solved.

    Incidentally, I had been talking with the head engineer about DCI versus translating models into STEP format. He told me that their CAD software has a "rounding" problem. In short, while the print dimensions are neatly rounded, the CAD dimensions may be off a few tenths or so - in the native CAD! A few checks of my translated model compared to his native model compared to the print confirm this: the model does not have the same dimensions as the print.

    This is going to start a very interesting discussion regarding whether the model or the print is master. For most of our parts, deviations this small won't matter substantially. On the part I was trying to inspect here (profiles of .0005), this makes or breaks the inspection program.

    Thanks to everyone for you help.
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  • After creating a handful of different programs (and comparing results from different alignment strategies), my problem is pretty consistent: profiles from keyed-in points are showing different results from profiles of a scan. The results are similar, but deviations appear exaggerated during the scan (TTP). I had the engineer look at my results, and he basically told me that since it was a test part we would let them go for now. Problem delayed, not solved.

    Incidentally, I had been talking with the head engineer about DCI versus translating models into STEP format. He told me that their CAD software has a "rounding" problem. In short, while the print dimensions are neatly rounded, the CAD dimensions may be off a few tenths or so - in the native CAD! A few checks of my translated model compared to his native model compared to the print confirm this: the model does not have the same dimensions as the print.

    This is going to start a very interesting discussion regarding whether the model or the print is master. For most of our parts, deviations this small won't matter substantially. On the part I was trying to inspect here (profiles of .0005), this makes or breaks the inspection program.

    Thanks to everyone for you help.
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