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"Cannot find Nominals"

nooners4
Hi,

I am having an issue when running a programme on PCDMIS 2014 SP4. A "cannot find nominals" text box is popping up when running certain programmes.

What I would really appreciate is, what exactly is causing this to pop up and are there any consequences for ignoring the message.

For Example if I click yes and update previous scans or if I say ignore and don't update scans, will this have an effect on the results?

I am not the one who writes the programmes (Guys in the US do this O am from Ireland!) and our programmers don't seem to know how to resolve the issue nor do they know what are the consequences for selecting yes or no on the text box.

A fix for this and some insight into how and why it comes up would be seriously appreciated!
Thanks,

Cian
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  • Hi,

    I am facing similar kind of issue. However in my case, I am not seeing any dialogue box but when I finish a scan and use XactMeasure to report the output, I get deviation as .001". if I hit F9 and click on GET NOMINALS and click OK to close edit box, PC-DMIS ask me if I want to update nominals. If I click YES, the profile output rose to 0.063" in deviation. I am using a 3mm probe or (.118" dia or .059" radius).

    Is PC-DMIS gets confused on calculating the output? Which results should I trust? .001" or .063"? I am also posting before and after code.

    before hitting GET NOMINALS:

    CORNER=FEAT/SCAN,MANUAL FREEFORM,,SHOW HITS=YES,SHOWALLPARAMS=NO
    MEAS/SCAN
    BASICSCAN/LINE,NUMBER OF HITS=28,SHOW HITS=YES,SHOWALLPARAMS=NO
    HIT/BASIC,<4.017,-7.766,8.645>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.062,-7.766,8.61>,T=0.057
    HIT/BASIC,<4.045,-7.678,8.681>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.091,-7.679,8.645>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.074,-7.585,8.717>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.12,-7.585,8.681>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.102,-7.491,8.753>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.148,-7.492,8.717>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.136,-7.384,8.796>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.182,-7.384,8.76>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.168,-7.282,8.836>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.214,-7.282,8.801>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.215,-7.129,8.897>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.261,-7.129,8.861>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.244,-7.038,8.933>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.29,-7.038,8.898>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.274,-6.944,8.971>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.32,-6.944,8.936>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.367,-6.645,9.09>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.413,-6.645,9.054>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.443,-6.402,9.186>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.489,-6.402,9.151>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.51,-6.19,9.271>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.556,-6.19,9.235>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.552,-6.055,9.325>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.598,-6.055,9.289>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.598,-5.907,9.383>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.644,-5.907,9.348>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.662,-5.707,9.463>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.707,-5.707,9.428>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.701,-5.581,9.514>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.747,-5.581,9.479>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.73,-5.489,9.551>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.776,-5.49,9.516>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.763,-5.384,9.592>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.809,-5.384,9.557>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.791,-5.294,9.628>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.837,-5.295,9.593>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.828,-5.179,9.674>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.873,-5.18,9.639>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.868,-5.051,9.725>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.913,-5.052,9.69>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.987,-4.673,9.877>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<5.032,-4.673,9.842>,T=0.057
    HIT/BASIC,<5.115,-4.264,10.04>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<5.16,-4.264,10.005>,T=0.057
    HIT/BASIC,<5.214,-3.949,10.166>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<5.259,-3.95,10.131>,T=0.057
    HIT/BASIC,<5.314,-3.632,10.292>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<5.359,-3.632,10.258>,T=0.056
    HIT/BASIC,<5.357,-3.497,10.347>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<5.401,-3.497,10.313>,T=0.056
    HIT/BASIC,<5.459,-3.17,10.477>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<5.503,-3.171,10.443>,T=0.056
    HIT/BASIC,<5.556,-2.866,10.6>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<5.599,-2.866,10.566>,T=0.055
    ENDSCAN
    ENDMEAS/

    deviation is .004"

    after hitting GET NOMINALS:

    WIN1 STEP CORNER=FEAT/SCAN,MANUAL FREEFORM,,SHOW HITS=YES,SHOWALLPARAMS=NO
    MEAS/SCAN
    BASICSCAN/LINE,NUMBER OF HITS=28,SHOW HITS=YES,SHOWALLPARAMS=NO
    HIT/BASIC,<4.039,-7.747,8.521>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.062,-7.766,8.61>,T=0.084
    HIT/BASIC,<4.068,-7.659,8.555>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.091,-7.679,8.645>,T=0.085
    HIT/BASIC,<4.097,-7.566,8.592>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.12,-7.585,8.681>,T=0.084
    HIT/BASIC,<4.127,-7.473,8.63>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.148,-7.492,8.717>,T=0.082
    HIT/BASIC,<4.16,-7.366,8.673>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.182,-7.384,8.76>,T=0.082
    HIT/BASIC,<4.192,-7.264,8.714>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.214,-7.282,8.801>,T=0.082
    HIT/BASIC,<4.24,-7.112,8.775>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.261,-7.129,8.861>,T=0.081
    HIT/BASIC,<4.269,-7.021,8.811>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.29,-7.038,8.898>,T=0.081
    HIT/BASIC,<4.299,-6.926,8.849>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.32,-6.944,8.936>,T=0.081
    HIT/BASIC,<4.393,-6.628,8.969>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.413,-6.645,9.054>,T=0.079
    HIT/BASIC,<4.47,-6.385,9.066>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.489,-6.402,9.151>,T=0.078
    HIT/BASIC,<4.536,-6.174,9.151>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.556,-6.19,9.235>,T=0.078
    HIT/BASIC,<4.579,-6.039,9.205>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.598,-6.055,9.289>,T=0.077
    HIT/BASIC,<4.625,-5.891,9.264>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.644,-5.907,9.348>,T=0.076
    HIT/BASIC,<4.688,-5.692,9.344>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.707,-5.707,9.428>,T=0.077
    HIT/BASIC,<4.728,-5.566,9.395>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.747,-5.581,9.479>,T=0.076
    HIT/BASIC,<4.757,-5.474,9.432>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.776,-5.49,9.516>,T=0.077
    HIT/BASIC,<4.79,-5.369,9.474>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.809,-5.384,9.557>,T=0.076
    HIT/BASIC,<4.818,-5.279,9.51>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.837,-5.295,9.593>,T=0.076
    HIT/BASIC,<4.855,-5.164,9.556>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.873,-5.18,9.639>,T=0.076
    HIT/BASIC,<4.895,-5.036,9.607>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.913,-5.052,9.69>,T=0.075
    HIT/BASIC,<5.014,-4.658,9.759>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<5.032,-4.673,9.842>,T=0.075
    HIT/BASIC,<5.143,-4.249,9.923>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<5.16,-4.264,10.005>,T=0.074
    HIT/BASIC,<5.242,-3.935,10.049>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<5.259,-3.95,10.131>,T=0.074
    HIT/BASIC,<5.342,-3.618,10.177>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<5.359,-3.632,10.258>,T=0.073
    HIT/BASIC,<5.384,-3.483,10.231>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<5.401,-3.497,10.313>,T=0.074
    HIT/BASIC,<5.487,-3.157,10.362>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<5.503,-3.171,10.443>,T=0.072
    HIT/BASIC,<5.582,-2.852,10.485>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<5.599,-2.866,10.566>,T=0.073
    ENDSCAN
    ENDMEAS/

    deviation is .066"

    I didn't change the scan in meantime. I don't understand where it the error coming from.
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  • Hi,

    I am facing similar kind of issue. However in my case, I am not seeing any dialogue box but when I finish a scan and use XactMeasure to report the output, I get deviation as .001". if I hit F9 and click on GET NOMINALS and click OK to close edit box, PC-DMIS ask me if I want to update nominals. If I click YES, the profile output rose to 0.063" in deviation. I am using a 3mm probe or (.118" dia or .059" radius).

    Is PC-DMIS gets confused on calculating the output? Which results should I trust? .001" or .063"? I am also posting before and after code.

    before hitting GET NOMINALS:

    CORNER=FEAT/SCAN,MANUAL FREEFORM,,SHOW HITS=YES,SHOWALLPARAMS=NO
    MEAS/SCAN
    BASICSCAN/LINE,NUMBER OF HITS=28,SHOW HITS=YES,SHOWALLPARAMS=NO
    HIT/BASIC,<4.017,-7.766,8.645>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.062,-7.766,8.61>,T=0.057
    HIT/BASIC,<4.045,-7.678,8.681>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.091,-7.679,8.645>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.074,-7.585,8.717>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.12,-7.585,8.681>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.102,-7.491,8.753>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.148,-7.492,8.717>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.136,-7.384,8.796>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.182,-7.384,8.76>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.168,-7.282,8.836>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.214,-7.282,8.801>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.215,-7.129,8.897>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.261,-7.129,8.861>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.244,-7.038,8.933>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.29,-7.038,8.898>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.274,-6.944,8.971>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.32,-6.944,8.936>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.367,-6.645,9.09>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.413,-6.645,9.054>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.443,-6.402,9.186>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.489,-6.402,9.151>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.51,-6.19,9.271>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.556,-6.19,9.235>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.552,-6.055,9.325>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.598,-6.055,9.289>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.598,-5.907,9.383>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.644,-5.907,9.348>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.662,-5.707,9.463>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.707,-5.707,9.428>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.701,-5.581,9.514>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.747,-5.581,9.479>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.73,-5.489,9.551>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.776,-5.49,9.516>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.763,-5.384,9.592>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.809,-5.384,9.557>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.791,-5.294,9.628>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.837,-5.295,9.593>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.828,-5.179,9.674>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.873,-5.18,9.639>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.868,-5.051,9.725>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<4.913,-5.052,9.69>,T=0.058
    HIT/BASIC,<4.987,-4.673,9.877>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<5.032,-4.673,9.842>,T=0.057
    HIT/BASIC,<5.115,-4.264,10.04>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<5.16,-4.264,10.005>,T=0.057
    HIT/BASIC,<5.214,-3.949,10.166>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<5.259,-3.95,10.131>,T=0.057
    HIT/BASIC,<5.314,-3.632,10.292>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<5.359,-3.632,10.258>,T=0.056
    HIT/BASIC,<5.357,-3.497,10.347>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<5.401,-3.497,10.313>,T=0.056
    HIT/BASIC,<5.459,-3.17,10.477>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<5.503,-3.171,10.443>,T=0.056
    HIT/BASIC,<5.556,-2.866,10.6>,<0.7921831,-0.0053097,-0.6102605>,<5.599,-2.866,10.566>,T=0.055
    ENDSCAN
    ENDMEAS/

    deviation is .004"

    after hitting GET NOMINALS:

    WIN1 STEP CORNER=FEAT/SCAN,MANUAL FREEFORM,,SHOW HITS=YES,SHOWALLPARAMS=NO
    MEAS/SCAN
    BASICSCAN/LINE,NUMBER OF HITS=28,SHOW HITS=YES,SHOWALLPARAMS=NO
    HIT/BASIC,<4.039,-7.747,8.521>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.062,-7.766,8.61>,T=0.084
    HIT/BASIC,<4.068,-7.659,8.555>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.091,-7.679,8.645>,T=0.085
    HIT/BASIC,<4.097,-7.566,8.592>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.12,-7.585,8.681>,T=0.084
    HIT/BASIC,<4.127,-7.473,8.63>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.148,-7.492,8.717>,T=0.082
    HIT/BASIC,<4.16,-7.366,8.673>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.182,-7.384,8.76>,T=0.082
    HIT/BASIC,<4.192,-7.264,8.714>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.214,-7.282,8.801>,T=0.082
    HIT/BASIC,<4.24,-7.112,8.775>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.261,-7.129,8.861>,T=0.081
    HIT/BASIC,<4.269,-7.021,8.811>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.29,-7.038,8.898>,T=0.081
    HIT/BASIC,<4.299,-6.926,8.849>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.32,-6.944,8.936>,T=0.081
    HIT/BASIC,<4.393,-6.628,8.969>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.413,-6.645,9.054>,T=0.079
    HIT/BASIC,<4.47,-6.385,9.066>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.489,-6.402,9.151>,T=0.078
    HIT/BASIC,<4.536,-6.174,9.151>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.556,-6.19,9.235>,T=0.078
    HIT/BASIC,<4.579,-6.039,9.205>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.598,-6.055,9.289>,T=0.077
    HIT/BASIC,<4.625,-5.891,9.264>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.644,-5.907,9.348>,T=0.076
    HIT/BASIC,<4.688,-5.692,9.344>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.707,-5.707,9.428>,T=0.077
    HIT/BASIC,<4.728,-5.566,9.395>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.747,-5.581,9.479>,T=0.076
    HIT/BASIC,<4.757,-5.474,9.432>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.776,-5.49,9.516>,T=0.077
    HIT/BASIC,<4.79,-5.369,9.474>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.809,-5.384,9.557>,T=0.076
    HIT/BASIC,<4.818,-5.279,9.51>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.837,-5.295,9.593>,T=0.076
    HIT/BASIC,<4.855,-5.164,9.556>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.873,-5.18,9.639>,T=0.076
    HIT/BASIC,<4.895,-5.036,9.607>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<4.913,-5.052,9.69>,T=0.075
    HIT/BASIC,<5.014,-4.658,9.759>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<5.032,-4.673,9.842>,T=0.075
    HIT/BASIC,<5.143,-4.249,9.923>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<5.16,-4.264,10.005>,T=0.074
    HIT/BASIC,<5.242,-3.935,10.049>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<5.259,-3.95,10.131>,T=0.074
    HIT/BASIC,<5.342,-3.618,10.177>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<5.359,-3.632,10.258>,T=0.073
    HIT/BASIC,<5.384,-3.483,10.231>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<5.401,-3.497,10.313>,T=0.074
    HIT/BASIC,<5.487,-3.157,10.362>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<5.503,-3.171,10.443>,T=0.072
    HIT/BASIC,<5.582,-2.852,10.485>,<0.5416752,-0.4545195,0.7071068>,<5.599,-2.866,10.566>,T=0.073
    ENDSCAN
    ENDMEAS/

    deviation is .066"

    I didn't change the scan in meantime. I don't understand where it the error coming from.
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