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A couple of General CMM Queries.

Hi,

I have a couple of questions regarding the running of our CMM's. It would be great to get some feedback on them.

1. We have now moved to 24/7 shift.Will having the CMM's running 24/7 affect their capability?

2. We run our programmes off a shared drive. For example, we have 6 CMM's running from the same programme at any one time off a shared drive. Could this cause issues?

3. We are running PC DMIS 2014. At the moment we are seeing issues with profile scans, we run a part and it could have 21 dimensions OOT, run it again it might pass. Run on another CMM it also might Pass

4. Could any of the above be causing inconsistent results?

Thnaks for the help,

Cian
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  • Hi Guys,

    I appreciate all the feedback and I suppose I have only one more question really and hopefully I will be able to satisfy the powers that be.

    Josh
    The big question for me is that. Ok it's great to here that running a shared programme on multiple CMM's is not good. But I suppose I need to be able to tell them WHY it isnt good. If I cant give them a couple of reasons why running off a shared programme is bad then I wont have much clout for getting them to bring in an automated system!

    So, any info on that would be great.

    Thanks,

    Cian


    Cian,
    Superuser Ewe0006 provided that. FYI: he knows far, FAR more than myself in this particular area. Bold emphasis is mine to illustrate the core reason:
    Like others here, I would not recommend trying to run multiple machines from the exact same program file. PC-DMIS frequently writes back to the program files, and you could run into a situation where multiple machines are trying to do so at once, and one flips out because the file is record-locked. I could also see he potential for data saved back to the program file by one machine causing a conflict on another.


    Also, he's local to my Hexagon office but we never hear from him because he keeps everything running very smoothly.
    So, if I were to be tasked with setting up a multi-machine system I would be calling him Step 1.
    We have a dozen or so Globals in our facility. All of their programs, probe files, etc. are stored on the network, but in individual shares for each machine - e.g. CMM #500 has all of its data in G:\PC-DMIS\MACHINES\500\... on our network, CMM #505 in G:\PC-DMIS\MACHINES\505\..., and so forth. Our CMM programmers can easily copy a program from one machine's share to another if they need to run it somewhere else.

    Also, the stability and reliability of your network connection is paramount when running from a network share. We used to have a 3COM core switch for our company network that did double duty propagating our IP phone system, but it did neither well - intermittent network latencies would sometimes crash PC-DMIS and cause serialization issues with programs. When we switched to dedicated HP core switches and a CudaTel IP phone system, these problems went away.
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  • Hi Guys,

    I appreciate all the feedback and I suppose I have only one more question really and hopefully I will be able to satisfy the powers that be.

    Josh
    The big question for me is that. Ok it's great to here that running a shared programme on multiple CMM's is not good. But I suppose I need to be able to tell them WHY it isnt good. If I cant give them a couple of reasons why running off a shared programme is bad then I wont have much clout for getting them to bring in an automated system!

    So, any info on that would be great.

    Thanks,

    Cian


    Cian,
    Superuser Ewe0006 provided that. FYI: he knows far, FAR more than myself in this particular area. Bold emphasis is mine to illustrate the core reason:
    Like others here, I would not recommend trying to run multiple machines from the exact same program file. PC-DMIS frequently writes back to the program files, and you could run into a situation where multiple machines are trying to do so at once, and one flips out because the file is record-locked. I could also see he potential for data saved back to the program file by one machine causing a conflict on another.


    Also, he's local to my Hexagon office but we never hear from him because he keeps everything running very smoothly.
    So, if I were to be tasked with setting up a multi-machine system I would be calling him Step 1.
    We have a dozen or so Globals in our facility. All of their programs, probe files, etc. are stored on the network, but in individual shares for each machine - e.g. CMM #500 has all of its data in G:\PC-DMIS\MACHINES\500\... on our network, CMM #505 in G:\PC-DMIS\MACHINES\505\..., and so forth. Our CMM programmers can easily copy a program from one machine's share to another if they need to run it somewhere else.

    Also, the stability and reliability of your network connection is paramount when running from a network share. We used to have a 3COM core switch for our company network that did double duty propagating our IP phone system, but it did neither well - intermittent network latencies would sometimes crash PC-DMIS and cause serialization issues with programs. When we switched to dedicated HP core switches and a CudaTel IP phone system, these problems went away.
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