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CAD Synchronization Issues

I'm a new CMM user, having recently taken the PC-DMIS 101 training, and I'm having difficulty synchronizing my imported CAD with the machine. I've searched through the forum for similar issues, but nothing has helped yet. I may simply be skipping a step, as I'm inexperienced. Here's my issue:

I import a CAD (STEP) file into PC-DMIS, and it shows up on the cad view. I create features for an alignment (plane, cylinder, plane in this case) using the program mode by selecting points with the mouse, and then I create the alignment feature itself. When I execute the program, I move the stylus with the joystick to manually probe those features on the part. However, when I'm finished, the graphics of the features appear at different locations on the screen and don't "jump" to the CAD like I recall from training. If I try to run any other movements in DCC after that, I get an out-of-stroke error, since the targets (e.g., other features I programmed using the CAD) are far away from the probe-measured features, and the machine doesn't like that.

I've tried simple fixes like restarting the CMM, the computer, and the software a few times. I've also tried using an iterative alignment with a plane, line, and point, as well as other alignments. I also tried re-exporting the CAD from our CAD software and then re-importing it into PC-DMIS. I've considered that I could manually move the CAD by offsetting it, but that seems like a cheat that would work once and now for future files.

Am I way off base, or am I just missing a simple step? I'd appreciate any suggestions and help. Thanks!
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  • hey guys so I am having similar problems and pretty convinced that the align is right not sure what is goin on... the dcc align goes to -8 for theo. I tried running the manual and then the dcc so then dcc would update but it is not working so well


    PART NAME : AR_MND_141_2018
    REV NUMBER :
    SER NUMBER :
    STATS COUNT : 1

    STARTUP =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:,LIST=YES
    ALIGNMENT/END
    MODE/MANUAL
    FORMAT/TEXT,OPTIONS, ,HEADINGS,SYMBOLS, ;NOM,TOL,MEAS,DEV,OUTTOL, ,
    LOADPROBE/AR PROBE BUILD 3-12-18
    TIP/T1A0B0, SHANKIJK=0, 0, 1, ANGLE=0
    PLN_MZ =FEAT/PLANE,CARTESIAN,TRIANGLE
    THEO/<8.8341,11.4961,-19.986>,<-0.0052123,-0.0004789,0.9999863>
    ACTL/<8.8341,11.4961,-19.986>,<-0.0052123,-0.0004789,0.9999863>
    MEAS/PLANE,4
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<9.1678,10.7168,-19.9846>,<-0.0052123,-0.0004789,0.9999863>,<9.1678,10.7168,-19.9846>,USE THEO=YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<9.1147,11.8935,-19.9845>,<-0.0052123,-0.0004789,0.9999863>,<9.1147,11.8935,-19.9845>,USE THEO=YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<8.5269,11.997,-19.9873>,<-0.0052123,-0.0004789,0.9999863>,<8.5269,11.997,-19.9873>,USE THEO=YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<8.5269,11.3768,-19.9878>,<-0.0052123,-0.0004789,0.9999863>,<8.5269,11.3768,-19.9878>,USE THEO=YES
    ENDMEAS/
    PLN_MY =FEAT/PLANE,CARTESIAN,TRIANGLE
    THEO/<8.2348,11.6098,-19.9244>,<-0.999931,0.0106038,-0.0050535>
    ACTL/<8.2348,11.6098,-19.9244>,<-0.999931,0.0106038,-0.0050535>
    MEAS/PLANE,4
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<8.2268,10.9147,-19.8163>,<-0.999931,0.0106038,-0.0050535>,<8.2268,10.9147,-19.8163>,USE THEO=YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<8.2276,10.908,-19.9609>,<-0.999931,0.0106038,-0.0050535>,<8.2276,10.908,-19.9609>,USE THEO=YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<8.2419,12.3083,-19.8475>,<-0.999931,0.0106038,-0.0050535>,<8.2419,12.3083,-19.8475>,USE THEO=YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<8.2429,12.3083,-20.0728>,<-0.999931,0.0106038,-0.0050535>,<8.2429,12.3083,-20.0728>,USE THEO=YES
    ENDMEAS/
    PLN_MX =FEAT/PLANE,CARTESIAN,TRIANGLE
    THEO/<8.8989,10.4675,-20.0314>,<-0.0103879,-0.9946831,0.102458>
    ACTL/<8.8989,10.4675,-20.0314>,<-0.0103879,-0.9946831,0.102458>
    MEAS/PLANE,4
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<9.0805,10.4668,-20.0189>,<-0.0103879,-0.9946831,0.102458>,<9.0805,10.4668,-20.0189>,USE THEO=YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<8.7322,10.4705,-20.0188>,<-0.0103879,-0.9946831,0.102458>,<8.7322,10.4705,-20.0188>,USE THEO=YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<8.7324,10.4679,-20.044>,<-0.0103879,-0.9946831,0.102458>,<8.7324,10.4679,-20.044>,USE THEO=YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<9.0506,10.4646,-20.0439>,<-0.0103879,-0.9946831,0.102458>,<9.0506,10.4646,-20.0439>,USE THEO=YES
    ENDMEAS/
    A1 =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:STARTUP,LIST=YES
    ALIGNMENT/LEVEL,ZPLUS,PLN_MZ
    ALIGNMENT/ROTATE,YMINUS,TO,PLN_MX,ABOUT,ZPLUS
    ALIGNMENT/TRANS,YAXIS,PLN_MX
    ALIGNMENT/TRANS,XAXIS,PLN_MY
    ALIGNMENT/TRANS,ZAXIS,PLN_MZ
    ALIGNMENT/END
    MODE/DCC
    MOVE/CLEARPLANE
    CLEARP/ZPLUS,1,ZPLUS,0,ON
    PLN_ZA =FEAT/PLANE,CARTESIAN,TRIANGLE
    THEO/<-8.4186,-11.7252,20.3382>,<0.0052073,0.0005305,0.9999863>
    ACTL/<-8.4186,-11.7252,20.3382>,<0.0052073,0.0005305,0.9999863>
    MEAS/PLANE,4
    MOVE/CLEARPLANE
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<-8.129,-10.6507,20.3361>,<0.0052073,0.0005305,0.9999863>,<-8.129,-10.6507,20.3361>,USE THEO=YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<-8.0755,-12.6851,20.3369>,<0.0052073,0.0005305,0.9999863>,<-8.0755,-12.6851,20.3369>,USE THEO=YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<-8.7317,-12.1078,20.3401>,<0.0052073,0.0005305,0.9999863>,<-8.7317,-12.1078,20.3401>,USE THEO=YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<-8.7381,-11.4574,20.3397>,<0.0052073,0.0005305,0.9999863>,<-8.7381,-11.4574,20.3397>,USE THEO=YES
    ENDMEAS/
    PLN_YA =FEAT/PLANE,CARTESIAN,TRIANGLE
    THEO/<-8.9887,-11.77,20.3572>,<-0.9999374,-0.0099038,0.0052123>
    ACTL/<-8.9887,-11.77,20.3572>,<-0.9999374,-0.0099038,0.0052123>
    MEAS/PLANE,4
    MOVE/CLEARPLANE
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<-8.9795,-12.6314,20.476>,<-0.9999374,-0.0099038,0.0052123>,<-8.9795,-12.6314,20.476>,USE THEO=YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<-8.9805,-12.6352,20.2825>,<-0.9999374,-0.0099038,0.0052123>,<-8.9805,-12.6352,20.2825>,USE THEO=YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<-8.9978,-10.9063,20.2385>,<-0.9999374,-0.0099038,0.0052123>,<-8.9978,-10.9063,20.2385>,USE THEO=YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<-8.9968,-10.9072,20.432>,<-0.9999374,-0.0099038,0.0052123>,<-8.9968,-10.9072,20.432>,USE THEO=YES
    ENDMEAS/
    PLN_XA =FEAT/PLANE,CARTESIAN,TRIANGLE
    THEO/<-8.2501,-12.8464,20.2897>,<0.0117822,-0.9928386,0.1188814>
    ACTL/<-8.2501,-12.8464,20.2897>,<0.0117822,-0.9928386,0.1188814>
    MEAS/PLANE,4
    MOVE/CLEARPLANE
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<-8.0998,-12.8423,20.3109>,<0.0117822,-0.9928386,0.1188814>,<-8.0998,-12.8423,20.3109>,USE THEO=YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<-8.3945,-12.8451,20.3139>,<0.0117822,-0.9928386,0.1188814>,<-8.3945,-12.8451,20.3139>,USE THEO=YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<-8.3957,-12.8517,20.2609>,<0.0117822,-0.9928386,0.1188814>,<-8.3957,-12.8517,20.2609>,USE THEO=YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<-8.1106,-12.8466,20.273>,<0.0117822,-0.9928386,0.1188814>,<-8.1106,-12.8466,20.273>,USE THEO=YES
    ENDMEAS/
    A2 =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:A1,LIST=YES
    ALIGNMENT/LEVEL,ZPLUS,PLN_ZA
    ALIGNMENT/ROTATE,XMINUS,TO,PLN_YA,ABOUT,ZPLUS
    ALIGNMENT/TRANS,YAXIS,PLN_XA
    ALIGNMENT/TRANS,XAXIS,PLN_YA
    ALIGNMENT/TRANS,ZAXIS,PLN_ZA
    ALIGNMENT/END
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  • hey guys so I am having similar problems and pretty convinced that the align is right not sure what is goin on... the dcc align goes to -8 for theo. I tried running the manual and then the dcc so then dcc would update but it is not working so well


    PART NAME : AR_MND_141_2018
    REV NUMBER :
    SER NUMBER :
    STATS COUNT : 1

    STARTUP =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:,LIST=YES
    ALIGNMENT/END
    MODE/MANUAL
    FORMAT/TEXT,OPTIONS, ,HEADINGS,SYMBOLS, ;NOM,TOL,MEAS,DEV,OUTTOL, ,
    LOADPROBE/AR PROBE BUILD 3-12-18
    TIP/T1A0B0, SHANKIJK=0, 0, 1, ANGLE=0
    PLN_MZ =FEAT/PLANE,CARTESIAN,TRIANGLE
    THEO/<8.8341,11.4961,-19.986>,<-0.0052123,-0.0004789,0.9999863>
    ACTL/<8.8341,11.4961,-19.986>,<-0.0052123,-0.0004789,0.9999863>
    MEAS/PLANE,4
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<9.1678,10.7168,-19.9846>,<-0.0052123,-0.0004789,0.9999863>,<9.1678,10.7168,-19.9846>,USE THEO=YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<9.1147,11.8935,-19.9845>,<-0.0052123,-0.0004789,0.9999863>,<9.1147,11.8935,-19.9845>,USE THEO=YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<8.5269,11.997,-19.9873>,<-0.0052123,-0.0004789,0.9999863>,<8.5269,11.997,-19.9873>,USE THEO=YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<8.5269,11.3768,-19.9878>,<-0.0052123,-0.0004789,0.9999863>,<8.5269,11.3768,-19.9878>,USE THEO=YES
    ENDMEAS/
    PLN_MY =FEAT/PLANE,CARTESIAN,TRIANGLE
    THEO/<8.2348,11.6098,-19.9244>,<-0.999931,0.0106038,-0.0050535>
    ACTL/<8.2348,11.6098,-19.9244>,<-0.999931,0.0106038,-0.0050535>
    MEAS/PLANE,4
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<8.2268,10.9147,-19.8163>,<-0.999931,0.0106038,-0.0050535>,<8.2268,10.9147,-19.8163>,USE THEO=YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<8.2276,10.908,-19.9609>,<-0.999931,0.0106038,-0.0050535>,<8.2276,10.908,-19.9609>,USE THEO=YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<8.2419,12.3083,-19.8475>,<-0.999931,0.0106038,-0.0050535>,<8.2419,12.3083,-19.8475>,USE THEO=YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<8.2429,12.3083,-20.0728>,<-0.999931,0.0106038,-0.0050535>,<8.2429,12.3083,-20.0728>,USE THEO=YES
    ENDMEAS/
    PLN_MX =FEAT/PLANE,CARTESIAN,TRIANGLE
    THEO/<8.8989,10.4675,-20.0314>,<-0.0103879,-0.9946831,0.102458>
    ACTL/<8.8989,10.4675,-20.0314>,<-0.0103879,-0.9946831,0.102458>
    MEAS/PLANE,4
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<9.0805,10.4668,-20.0189>,<-0.0103879,-0.9946831,0.102458>,<9.0805,10.4668,-20.0189>,USE THEO=YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<8.7322,10.4705,-20.0188>,<-0.0103879,-0.9946831,0.102458>,<8.7322,10.4705,-20.0188>,USE THEO=YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<8.7324,10.4679,-20.044>,<-0.0103879,-0.9946831,0.102458>,<8.7324,10.4679,-20.044>,USE THEO=YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<9.0506,10.4646,-20.0439>,<-0.0103879,-0.9946831,0.102458>,<9.0506,10.4646,-20.0439>,USE THEO=YES
    ENDMEAS/
    A1 =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:STARTUP,LIST=YES
    ALIGNMENT/LEVEL,ZPLUS,PLN_MZ
    ALIGNMENT/ROTATE,YMINUS,TO,PLN_MX,ABOUT,ZPLUS
    ALIGNMENT/TRANS,YAXIS,PLN_MX
    ALIGNMENT/TRANS,XAXIS,PLN_MY
    ALIGNMENT/TRANS,ZAXIS,PLN_MZ
    ALIGNMENT/END
    MODE/DCC
    MOVE/CLEARPLANE
    CLEARP/ZPLUS,1,ZPLUS,0,ON
    PLN_ZA =FEAT/PLANE,CARTESIAN,TRIANGLE
    THEO/<-8.4186,-11.7252,20.3382>,<0.0052073,0.0005305,0.9999863>
    ACTL/<-8.4186,-11.7252,20.3382>,<0.0052073,0.0005305,0.9999863>
    MEAS/PLANE,4
    MOVE/CLEARPLANE
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<-8.129,-10.6507,20.3361>,<0.0052073,0.0005305,0.9999863>,<-8.129,-10.6507,20.3361>,USE THEO=YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<-8.0755,-12.6851,20.3369>,<0.0052073,0.0005305,0.9999863>,<-8.0755,-12.6851,20.3369>,USE THEO=YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<-8.7317,-12.1078,20.3401>,<0.0052073,0.0005305,0.9999863>,<-8.7317,-12.1078,20.3401>,USE THEO=YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<-8.7381,-11.4574,20.3397>,<0.0052073,0.0005305,0.9999863>,<-8.7381,-11.4574,20.3397>,USE THEO=YES
    ENDMEAS/
    PLN_YA =FEAT/PLANE,CARTESIAN,TRIANGLE
    THEO/<-8.9887,-11.77,20.3572>,<-0.9999374,-0.0099038,0.0052123>
    ACTL/<-8.9887,-11.77,20.3572>,<-0.9999374,-0.0099038,0.0052123>
    MEAS/PLANE,4
    MOVE/CLEARPLANE
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<-8.9795,-12.6314,20.476>,<-0.9999374,-0.0099038,0.0052123>,<-8.9795,-12.6314,20.476>,USE THEO=YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<-8.9805,-12.6352,20.2825>,<-0.9999374,-0.0099038,0.0052123>,<-8.9805,-12.6352,20.2825>,USE THEO=YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<-8.9978,-10.9063,20.2385>,<-0.9999374,-0.0099038,0.0052123>,<-8.9978,-10.9063,20.2385>,USE THEO=YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<-8.9968,-10.9072,20.432>,<-0.9999374,-0.0099038,0.0052123>,<-8.9968,-10.9072,20.432>,USE THEO=YES
    ENDMEAS/
    PLN_XA =FEAT/PLANE,CARTESIAN,TRIANGLE
    THEO/<-8.2501,-12.8464,20.2897>,<0.0117822,-0.9928386,0.1188814>
    ACTL/<-8.2501,-12.8464,20.2897>,<0.0117822,-0.9928386,0.1188814>
    MEAS/PLANE,4
    MOVE/CLEARPLANE
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<-8.0998,-12.8423,20.3109>,<0.0117822,-0.9928386,0.1188814>,<-8.0998,-12.8423,20.3109>,USE THEO=YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<-8.3945,-12.8451,20.3139>,<0.0117822,-0.9928386,0.1188814>,<-8.3945,-12.8451,20.3139>,USE THEO=YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<-8.3957,-12.8517,20.2609>,<0.0117822,-0.9928386,0.1188814>,<-8.3957,-12.8517,20.2609>,USE THEO=YES
    HIT/BASIC,NORMAL,<-8.1106,-12.8466,20.273>,<0.0117822,-0.9928386,0.1188814>,<-8.1106,-12.8466,20.273>,USE THEO=YES
    ENDMEAS/
    A2 =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:A1,LIST=YES
    ALIGNMENT/LEVEL,ZPLUS,PLN_ZA
    ALIGNMENT/ROTATE,XMINUS,TO,PLN_YA,ABOUT,ZPLUS
    ALIGNMENT/TRANS,YAXIS,PLN_XA
    ALIGNMENT/TRANS,XAXIS,PLN_YA
    ALIGNMENT/TRANS,ZAXIS,PLN_ZA
    ALIGNMENT/END
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