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"Default" Math Vs "Legacy"?

What are we calling the new default Geo-Tol math? "New Math"? "Default Math"?
I remember this gun fight a loooong time ago, it ended up bad for Hexagon and us also.
what I mean is:
The "New Math" best fits a little too aggressive for me compared to "Legacy". Last time I had reports coming out with perfect true position our customer Lockheed Martin mopped the floor with Pc-Dmis and started the whole ISO Best-Fit shootout, disallowing us to use Pc-Dmis best fit algorithms. The "New Math" best fits also. Here is a comparison:



What do you think?
and can we come up with a disparaging term like "New Math" other than "Geo-Tol"? or "Geo out-of Tol"?

thx
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  • Dear Furry Members,

    I just cant buy in. I've dipped my toe in the Default Math water, and I'm gonna sit this one out. I just don't see enough correlation when mechanically I can't validate its output. Just instinctively at a gut level, I don't feel confident at all passing any information gained by these new evaluations to the machine shop. I have tried, and in the end I felt I looked foolish and incompetent. The new information derived produced no benefit to manufacturing, and just muddied up unclear directions even more. I don't get paid to guess, and I really feel this is another best guess by hexagon.
    Sorry Neil, I don't mean to make this personal, but you are the product owner, and I know you will.
    I'm NOT diving in the "Default Math" pool, I'll be here in the cabana , enjoying some drink with an umbrella or something.

    CHeers.
  • I assume they are constructed primary datum planes? The constructed primary datum plane, secondary datum line and tertiary datum point were added purely to provide a way for legacy users to construct alignments which satisfied the new datum math rules. They are not supposed to be dimensioned themselves since they contain no hits (the help file does state this). Those constructions are not necessary when working with the geometric tolerance command because it performs the constrained L2 calculation automatically in the background when you have DEFAULT datum math and DEFAULT feature math selected. As you are seeing, when working with the geometric tolerance command, most constructions are unnecessary and can actually get in the way. It's sort of the opposite concept to "traditional" CMM programming where users previously had to get creative and employ constructed features because of the limited dimensional capabilities of older software packages.
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  • I assume they are constructed primary datum planes? The constructed primary datum plane, secondary datum line and tertiary datum point were added purely to provide a way for legacy users to construct alignments which satisfied the new datum math rules. They are not supposed to be dimensioned themselves since they contain no hits (the help file does state this). Those constructions are not necessary when working with the geometric tolerance command because it performs the constrained L2 calculation automatically in the background when you have DEFAULT datum math and DEFAULT feature math selected. As you are seeing, when working with the geometric tolerance command, most constructions are unnecessary and can actually get in the way. It's sort of the opposite concept to "traditional" CMM programming where users previously had to get creative and employ constructed features because of the limited dimensional capabilities of older software packages.
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