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RUNOUT - what's the correct way

Hello,

I'm faceing a problem with measuring RUNOUT on a 540mm tube.

Let me explain:

The tube consist of two datums - A and B. Datum A is at the front of the tube, Datum B is slightly off center on the opposite site. Datums defined out of circles, because measured cylinders are short in distance.

1. We need to measure what's the runout on a circle on the far side of the tube. RUNOUT DIA42 [A - B]. The problem is that with turning the tube on a fixture, we get up to 0.04 variation.
2. We need to measure whats the runout on a circle which is datum A looking at datum B - RUNOUT DIA_A . The problem is the same but with much bigger variation.

I know that form has a big impact on runout - form of datums are not the same.

What I've tried is and I don't know if this is correct:
I've constructed a cylinder out of two circles which are opposite and on the far side of the tube and did the alignment: level and origin on that cylinder- alignment is now in the middle of the tube.

When doing this, the RUNOUT on datum is better, we get the same variation - up to 0.04 and not up to 0.1. The datum [A-B] is measured the same as previous alignment.

Is there any other way?


Now I need to convince our technology, that we measure correct.


BR



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  • Datums are nominally concentric.

    All of them are ID.
    I'm using touch trigger with Disc probe 200mm. I've tried with probe 8x225 ball tip - results are the same.
    Diameters are measured as complete circles - 4 points ATM
    The form of the circles: A approx 0.007, B approx 0.015 and they are not the same form.

    Let me add - the machining is two separate operations - 1st milling and then turning
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  • Datums are nominally concentric.

    All of them are ID.
    I'm using touch trigger with Disc probe 200mm. I've tried with probe 8x225 ball tip - results are the same.
    Diameters are measured as complete circles - 4 points ATM
    The form of the circles: A approx 0.007, B approx 0.015 and they are not the same form.

    Let me add - the machining is two separate operations - 1st milling and then turning
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