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How to verify the pitch #of nuts?

Hello all

I was asked a question about pitch: How to verify the pitch of a nut?  The reason was about half years ago one supplier CMM programmer cheated on the TP of nuts by manipulating pitch #.  Now they asked me how to verify it ... Help please... 

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  • Functional lot acceptance of thread form can only be effectively assessed with a known good counterpart (GO/NOGO rings or plugs).
    That might be a contentious statement, so hear me out.  You can verify components of the helix, (Pitch, Max/Min dia, angles, radii) to verify the threads should work, but until it passes functional gages, you could absolutely have a "good" part fail in the mating part's threads, in the instance mating part is also functionally close to specified limits.

    Can you measure pitch with a CMM? YES.  You need to scan (ttp or analog) a line down the axis of the threads.  then you need to define a strategy to quantify the max/min peak/valley's of each thread. Extract the Z height of the peaks/valley's and you've got pitch.   Size of your probe vs pitch is super important here, as well as your machine's ability to probe normal to thread axis.

  • Sounds very complicated. Thanks for the explanation. 

  • Verifying thread pitch is pretty simple actually. Most typically use plug/ring gauges that are certified to determine pass/fail. You can use repro rubber for example to make a mold and measure the threads if your requirements call for specific size. Whenever I have a MMC condition on a threaded diameter in the past I use the major or minor diameter to determine the bonus. I have never had an issue in reporting this way. The only issues I have had was trying to report the major/minor diameter size accurately. even with the pitch function it's not easy to hit the peak of the thread especially when you have fine threads.

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  • Verifying thread pitch is pretty simple actually. Most typically use plug/ring gauges that are certified to determine pass/fail. You can use repro rubber for example to make a mold and measure the threads if your requirements call for specific size. Whenever I have a MMC condition on a threaded diameter in the past I use the major or minor diameter to determine the bonus. I have never had an issue in reporting this way. The only issues I have had was trying to report the major/minor diameter size accurately. even with the pitch function it's not easy to hit the peak of the thread especially when you have fine threads.

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