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Profile of a cone

Greetings everyone....my name is Kevin, but I go by KJ. I'm hoping someone might be able to assist me with a problem I've been having regarding the ROMER arm I've recently started using. The main issue I have is when I measure a cone on a part and then try to dimension it's profile my results are extremely skewed. Since I work at a company that prevents me from disclosing any particulars on what we manufacture, I am limited in what I can show/link to these forums.

With that said, I feel a lot folk deal with cones on parts so I think I'm okay so far. Anyways, I've worked with PC-DMIS for awhile (learned the DOS version when I first started using a CMM) and I've been to the Level 2 class at Hexagon for training. There are things I still need to learn I'm certain, but for right now I'd settle on being able to figure out why my results always end up inaccurate.

So far, I have tried using an auto-feature to construct the cone I want to profile and then measuring the cone. After I try to dimension the cone (datums are defined), my results are either 0.000 or show up as being several inches out of tolerance. While I have never been afraid of zero, I doubt the parts I'm checking (forged) are that smooth. For example my tolerance FCF might say | Profile symbol | .010 | A | B | the measured value shows 2.3119 or something similia. Way outside of tolerance.

When I run the program offline my results always come in nominal so I don't think I'm programming it incorrectly. Also when ran on a CMM, the results are more believable (if not in tolerance, than at least not inches out of tolerance).

My ultimate question, since I guess i haven't asked one yet, is this - Does the ROMER need special instructions for PC-DMIS to accurately report the profile of a cone?
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  • Do you have a CAD model imported into PC-DMIS? If so, the best thing is to just collect a number of vector points on the cone surface, combine to a SET and dimension profile on that (or look at individual T values). If you don't have a CAD model, how should PC-DMIS know what the THEOs for each point should be? And what should it do when you don't measure at that exact point? Maybe autotrigg can help placing the points more accurately, but being manual you will always measure somewhere else than the THEOs say...
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  • Do you have a CAD model imported into PC-DMIS? If so, the best thing is to just collect a number of vector points on the cone surface, combine to a SET and dimension profile on that (or look at individual T values). If you don't have a CAD model, how should PC-DMIS know what the THEOs for each point should be? And what should it do when you don't measure at that exact point? Maybe autotrigg can help placing the points more accurately, but being manual you will always measure somewhere else than the THEOs say...
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