I'm back with another rapid-fire set of questions:
I'm having a lot of troubles getting my alignments down. So, basically where i work, we make exhaust tubes. I am almost always supplied a cad, with a predetermined origin and rotation orientation for my coordinate system. Because of this, I was told in the PC-Dmis 101 class, I would have to almost exclusively use best-fit alignments. Now, to do my alignment, I typically take four separate hits (using my mouse on my CAD) on each end of the tube in a kind-of plus pattern. Then i start a new alignment, click best fit, select all 8 of my hits, click compute, then ok, ok. So that's my initial alignment. Then I select auto-trigger mode and place 4 hits on either end of the tube (The cut part of the tube, by the way; what will eventually be measured as a plane soon), and create a second best fit alignment using the 8 new auto trigger hits.
After this is done, i shift-left click all my features starting at one plane, then all the cylinders down the part, then the last plane. I construct a pierce point between the first plane and first cylinder, and then the second plane and the last cylinder.
Here's where i get into trouble:
By blueprints typically call out distances between these two points across the X, Y, and Z axis, all separately. X normally goes down the length of the part, Y for the width, and Z for height. My X measurement is 'almost' always in spec, and then my Y and Z measurement is be off, sometimes significantly. This leads me to believe that there is a rotational issue present, likely due to how i built my first alignment. On occasion, my x measurement will be near perfect, then Y and Z be off my 8-10mm. Yet when i check the part to the check fixture the issue isn't present, which only further confirms that i am doing something blatantly wrong. In the PC-Dmis class, we only used the training block, so it was incredibly easy (relatively) to visualize my alignments, and make sure i had all degrees of travel and rotation locked.
Please, someone help me understand what I'm doing wrong, and what i can do to fix this issue. I have been doing this for around 6 months, (did the PC-Dmis 101 course this last December) so I don't know all the lingo or shorthand names for some of these actions i see some people talk about. Please explain how i should be doing it, as step-by-step as you can as though you were instructing an infant, because I'm definitely missing something here.
With my last post after the guy helping me realized I'm an incompetent newb at this, and he broke down what i needed to do step-by-step, it almost completely solved my issue that i was having.
Dim dim1= location of point mid1 units=mm ,$
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ax nominal +tol -tol meas dev outtol
x 1724.308 4.000 4.000 1724.195 -0.113 0.000 ----#----
y 131.868 4.000 4.000 130.729 -1.139 0.000 ---#-----
z -96.585 4.000 4.000 -93.921 2.664 0.000 -------#-
end of dimension dim1
dim dim2= location of point mid2 units=mm ,$
graph=off text=off mult=10.00 output=both half angle=no
ax nominal +tol -tol meas dev outtol
x 1754.119 4.000 4.000 1748.257 -5.862 1.862 <--------
y 134.456 4.000 4.000 133.330 -1.127 0.000 ---#-----
z -97.134 4.000 4.000 -94.236 2.899 0.000 -------#-
end of dimension dim2
dim dim3= location of point mid3 units=mm ,$
graph=off text=off mult=10.00 output=both half angle=no
ax nominal +tol -tol meas dev outtol
x 1917.000 4.000 4.000 1915.477 -1.523 0.000 --#------
y 154.333 4.000 4.000 155.221 0.887 0.000 -----#---
z -101.358 4.000 4.000 -97.101 4.258 0.258 -------->
end of dimension dim3
dim dim4= location of point mid4 units=mm ,$
graph=off text=off mult=10.00 output=both half angle=no
ax nominal +tol -tol meas dev outtol
x 2028.531 4.000 4.000 2035.367 6.836 2.836 -------->
y 80.946 4.000 4.000 79.795 -1.151 0.000 ---#-----
z -105.004 4.000 4.000 -113.328 -8.324 4.324 <--------
end of dimension dim4
dim dim5= location of point mid5 units=mm ,$
graph=off text=off mult=10.00 output=both half angle=no
ax nominal +tol -tol meas dev outtol
x 2617.572 4.000 4.000 2611.805 -5.767 1.767 <--------
y -57.086 4.000 4.000 -55.770 1.316 0.000 -----#---
z -105.550 4.000 4.000 -106.867 -1.317 0.000 ---#-----
end of dimension dim5
dim dim6= location of point mid6 units=mm ,$
graph=off text=off mult=10.00 output=both half angle=no
ax nominal +tol -tol meas dev outtol
x 2794.664 4.000 4.000 2794.732 0.068 0.000 ----#----
y -152.151 4.000 4.000 -152.292 -0.141 0.000 ----#----
z -105.951 4.000 4.000 -103.191 2.760 0.000 -------#-
end of dimension dim6
dim angl1= 2d angle from cylinder cyl1 to cylinder cyl2 ,$
graph=off text=off mult=10.00 output=both
ax nominal +tol -tol meas dev outtol
a 1.996 0.100 0.100 1.230 -0.766 0.666 <--------
dim angl2= 2d angle from cylinder cyl3 to cylinder cyl2 ,$
graph=off text=off mult=10.00 output=both
ax nominal +tol -tol meas dev outtol
a 41.017 0.100 0.100 39.901 -1.116 1.016 <--------
dim angl3= 2d angle from cylinder cyl3 to cylinder cyl6 ,$
graph=off text=off mult=10.00 output=both
ax nominal +tol -tol meas dev outtol
a 20.966 0.100 0.100 19.276 -1.690 1.590 <--------
dim angl4= 2d angle to cylinder cyl6 from cylinder cyl7 ,$
graph=off text=off mult=10.00 output=both
ax nominal +tol -tol meas dev outtol
a 15.134 0.100 0.100 14.428 -0.706 0.606 <--------
dim length1= 3d distance from point mid1 to point mid2,shortest=off,no_radius units=mm,$
graph=off text=off mult=10.00 output=both
ax nominal +tol -tol meas dev outtol
m 29.928 1.000 1.000 24.204 -5.725 4.725 <--------
dim length2= 3d distance from point mid2 to point mid3,shortest=off,no_radius units=mm,$
graph=off text=off mult=10.00 output=both
ax nominal +tol -tol meas dev outtol
m 164.144 1.000 1.000 168.671 4.527 3.527 -------->
dim length3= 3d distance from point mid3 to point mid4,shortest=off,no_radius units=mm,$
graph=off text=off mult=10.00 output=both
ax nominal +tol -tol meas dev outtol
m 133.559 1.000 1.000 142.570 9.010 8.010 -------->
dim length4= 3d distance from point mid4 to point mid5,shortest=off,no_radius units=mm,$
graph=off text=off mult=10.00 output=both
ax nominal +tol -tol meas dev outtol
m 604.998 1.000 1.000 592.199 -12.799 11.799 <--------
dim length5= 3d distance from point mid5 to point mid6,shortest=off,no_radius units=mm,$
graph=off text=off mult=10.00 output=both
ax nominal +tol -tol meas dev outtol
m 200.996 1.000 1.000 206.864 5.868 4.868 -------->
Dim dim1= location of point mid1 units=mm ,$
graph=off text=off mult=10.00 output=both half angle=no
ax nominal +tol -tol meas dev outtol
x 1724.308 4.000 4.000 1724.195 -0.113 0.000 ----#----
y 131.868 4.000 4.000 130.729 -1.139 0.000 ---#-----
z -96.585 4.000 4.000 -93.921 2.664 0.000 -------#-
end of dimension dim1
dim dim2= location of point mid2 units=mm ,$
graph=off text=off mult=10.00 output=both half angle=no
ax nominal +tol -tol meas dev outtol
x 1754.119 4.000 4.000 1748.257 -5.862 1.862 <--------
y 134.456 4.000 4.000 133.330 -1.127 0.000 ---#-----
z -97.134 4.000 4.000 -94.236 2.899 0.000 -------#-
end of dimension dim2
dim dim3= location of point mid3 units=mm ,$
graph=off text=off mult=10.00 output=both half angle=no
ax nominal +tol -tol meas dev outtol
x 1917.000 4.000 4.000 1915.477 -1.523 0.000 --#------
y 154.333 4.000 4.000 155.221 0.887 0.000 -----#---
z -101.358 4.000 4.000 -97.101 4.258 0.258 -------->
end of dimension dim3
dim dim4= location of point mid4 units=mm ,$
graph=off text=off mult=10.00 output=both half angle=no
ax nominal +tol -tol meas dev outtol
x 2028.531 4.000 4.000 2035.367 6.836 2.836 -------->
y 80.946 4.000 4.000 79.795 -1.151 0.000 ---#-----
z -105.004 4.000 4.000 -113.328 -8.324 4.324 <--------
end of dimension dim4
dim dim5= location of point mid5 units=mm ,$
graph=off text=off mult=10.00 output=both half angle=no
ax nominal +tol -tol meas dev outtol
x 2617.572 4.000 4.000 2611.805 -5.767 1.767 <--------
y -57.086 4.000 4.000 -55.770 1.316 0.000 -----#---
z -105.550 4.000 4.000 -106.867 -1.317 0.000 ---#-----
end of dimension dim5
dim dim6= location of point mid6 units=mm ,$
graph=off text=off mult=10.00 output=both half angle=no
ax nominal +tol -tol meas dev outtol
x 2794.664 4.000 4.000 2794.732 0.068 0.000 ----#----
y -152.151 4.000 4.000 -152.292 -0.141 0.000 ----#----
z -105.951 4.000 4.000 -103.191 2.760 0.000 -------#-
end of dimension dim6
dim angl1= 2d angle from cylinder cyl1 to cylinder cyl2 ,$
graph=off text=off mult=10.00 output=both
ax nominal +tol -tol meas dev outtol
a 1.996 0.100 0.100 1.230 -0.766 0.666 <--------
dim angl2= 2d angle from cylinder cyl3 to cylinder cyl2 ,$
graph=off text=off mult=10.00 output=both
ax nominal +tol -tol meas dev outtol
a 41.017 0.100 0.100 39.901 -1.116 1.016 <--------
dim angl3= 2d angle from cylinder cyl3 to cylinder cyl6 ,$
graph=off text=off mult=10.00 output=both
ax nominal +tol -tol meas dev outtol
a 20.966 0.100 0.100 19.276 -1.690 1.590 <--------
dim angl4= 2d angle to cylinder cyl6 from cylinder cyl7 ,$
graph=off text=off mult=10.00 output=both
ax nominal +tol -tol meas dev outtol
a 15.134 0.100 0.100 14.428 -0.706 0.606 <--------
dim length1= 3d distance from point mid1 to point mid2,shortest=off,no_radius units=mm,$
graph=off text=off mult=10.00 output=both
ax nominal +tol -tol meas dev outtol
m 29.928 1.000 1.000 24.204 -5.725 4.725 <--------
dim length2= 3d distance from point mid2 to point mid3,shortest=off,no_radius units=mm,$
graph=off text=off mult=10.00 output=both
ax nominal +tol -tol meas dev outtol
m 164.144 1.000 1.000 168.671 4.527 3.527 -------->
dim length3= 3d distance from point mid3 to point mid4,shortest=off,no_radius units=mm,$
graph=off text=off mult=10.00 output=both
ax nominal +tol -tol meas dev outtol
m 133.559 1.000 1.000 142.570 9.010 8.010 -------->
dim length4= 3d distance from point mid4 to point mid5,shortest=off,no_radius units=mm,$
graph=off text=off mult=10.00 output=both
ax nominal +tol -tol meas dev outtol
m 604.998 1.000 1.000 592.199 -12.799 11.799 <--------
dim length5= 3d distance from point mid5 to point mid6,shortest=off,no_radius units=mm,$
graph=off text=off mult=10.00 output=both
ax nominal +tol -tol meas dev outtol
m 200.996 1.000 1.000 206.864 5.868 4.868 -------->