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Alignment from FCF Datum Shift



I think what vpt (and me) were hoping for was a way to create an alignment that uses the Xact fit shift. There are all sorts of applications for this. Using the available options in best-fit alignment is not the same, because they do not attempt to fit within a tolerance zone.

A few years old but I haven't found anything using search.

SPH1       =GENERIC/SPHERE,DEPENDENT,CARTESIAN,OUT,$
            NOM/XYZ,<0,0,0>,$
            MEAS/XYZ,<0,0,0>,$
            NOM/IJK,<0,0,1>,$
            MEAS/IJK,<0,0,1>,$
            DIAMETER/1,1.1
DIM LOC1= LOCATION OF SPHERE SPH1
AX    NOMINAL       +TOL       -TOL       MEAS        DEV     OUTTOL
D       1.0000     0.2500    -0.2500     1.1000     0.1000     0.0000 ------#--
END OF DIMENSION LOC1
            DATDEF/FEATURE=SPH1,A
            DISPLAYPRECISION/6
FCFLOC1 =POSITION : CIR152_1,CIR152_2,CIR152_3,...
            FEATCTRLFRAME/SHOWNOMS=NO,SHOWPARAMS=NO,SHOWEXPANDED=NO
              SIZE TOLERANCES/33,DIAMETER,0.375,0.005,-0.005
              PRIMARY DIMENSION/POSITION,DIAMETER,0.01,MMC,A,MMC,,
              NOTE/FCFLOC1
            FEATURES/CIR152_1,CIR152_2,CIR152_3,CIR152_4,CIR152_5,
                                CIR152_6,CIR152_7,CIR152_8,CIR152_9,CIR152_10,
                                CIR152_11,CIR152_12,CIR152_13,CIR152_14,
                                CIR152_15,CIR152_16,CIR152_17,CIR152_18,
                                CIR152_19,CIR152_20,CIR152_21,CIR152_22,
                                CIR152_23,CIR152_24,CIR152_25,CIR152_26,
                                CIR152_27,CIR152_28,CIR152_29,CIR152_30,
                                CIR152_31,CIR152_32,CIR152_33,,
            ASSIGN/V1=GETTEXT("DRF_SHIFTX",1,{FCFLOC1})
            ASSIGN/V2=GETTEXT("DRF_SHIFTY",1,{FCFLOC1})
            ASSIGN/V3=GETTEXT("DRF_SHIFTZ",1,{FCFLOC1})
            ASSIGN/V4=GETTEXT("DRF_ROTATIONX",1,{FCFLOC1})*-1
            ASSIGN/V5=GETTEXT("DRF_ROTATIONY",1,{FCFLOC1})*-1
            ASSIGN/V6=GETTEXT("DRF_ROTATIONZ",1,{FCFLOC1})*-1
            FORMAT/TEXT, , ,HEADINGS, , ;NOM,MEAS, , , , , 
DIM BEFORE= LOCATION OF CIRCLE CIR152_1
AX     NOMINAL        MEAS
X     10.153721   10.154507
Y    -27.402826  -27.405035
Z     -8.032519   -8.025360
END OF DIMENSION BEFORE
ALIGN1     =ALIGNMENT/START,RECALL:PREVIOUS,LIST=YES
              ALIGNMENT/ROTATE_OFFSET,V4,ABOUT,XPLUS
              ALIGNMENT/ROTATE_OFFSET,V5,ABOUT,YPLUS
              ALIGNMENT/ROTATE_OFFSET,V6,ABOUT,ZPLUS
              ALIGNMENT/TRANS_OFFSET,XAXIS,V1
              ALIGNMENT/TRANS_OFFSET,YAXIS,V2
              ALIGNMENT/TRANS_OFFSET,ZAXIS,V3
            ALIGNMENT/END
DIM AFTER= LOCATION OF CIRCLE CIR152_1
AX     NOMINAL        MEAS
X     10.151373   10.152161
Y    -27.394485  -27.396694
Z     -8.041472   -8.034312
D      0.376500    0.377383
END OF DIMENSION AFTER
            COMMENT/REPT,
            "Xshift:  "+V1
            "Yshift:  "+V2
            "Zshift:  "+V3
            "Rotation X:  "+V4*-1
            "Rotation Y:  "+V5*-1
            "Rotation Z:  "+V6*-1

The FCF output with datum shift is:


Using a sphere as the only datum seems to allow all 6 degrees to float. There is some small round-off error due to the numbers being used limited to the current DISPLAYPRECISION (not much).

Now what? Trying to actually use this has me baffled. I'd like to simulate the FCF output having the transformed measured coordinates evaluated against the model nominal values. The BEFORE dim has the nominals I want but the AFTER dim has the measured I want (like the FCF output). Inserting & Recalling alignments, Updating Dependent Commands (answering both yes and no) leaves me feeling like I've found my way into a rabbit hole. Maybe Profile dims behave differently?

I'm aware that some settings may influence the results: Update Dependent Commands (warning), UpdateBelowChangedAlignmentDuringExecution (registry), Ignore CAD to part (F5 settings), Allow Fine Tuning of Alignment (F5 settings). I'd really like to get this working inline without resorting to any type of external automation if possible. Can someone throw me a bone here? There's gotta be a way to get some mileage out of this.
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  • Kevo,
    If your XactMeasure dimension has a label of "FCFLOC1" the following should pull the datum shift values for you:

    ASSIGN/V1=GETTEXT("DRF_SHIFTX",1,{FCFLOC1})
                ASSIGN/V2=GETTEXT("DRF_SHIFTY",1,{FCFLOC1})
                ASSIGN/V3=GETTEXT("DRF_SHIFTZ",1,{FCFLOC1})
                ASSIGN/V4=GETTEXT("DRF_ROTATIONX",1,{FCFLOC1})
                ASSIGN/V5=GETTEXT("DRF_ROTATIONY",1,{FCFLOC1})
                ASSIGN/V6=GETTEXT("DRF_ROTATIONZ",1,{FCFLOC1})
    


    Just substitute your dimension label for "FCFLOC1" and you should be set. The code segment you were looking at dealt with locational coordinates of the FCF features.


    Thanks so much! Not that I want to delve too deeply into this... But I did find DRF_SHIFTY and DRF_ROTATIONX in the manual when I searched for those specific terms. but I don't see anywhere in the manual where it refers to the ,1, parameter. is that just a 1=yes or 0=no sort of switch that a 'professional' vb guy would know about?

    <edit>
    Hey, I just noticed that your first post said to get the shifted XYZ's with this code:
                ASSIGN/BF1_X=GETTEXT("SUMMARY_MEAS",1,{FCFLOC1})
                ASSIGN/BF1_Y=GETTEXT("SUMMARY_MEAS",2,{FCFLOC1})
                ASSIGN/BF1_Z=GETTEXT("SUMMARY_MEAS",3,{FCFLOC1})
    

    In that, I figured the shifted Y was the ,2, parameter
    but in the "DRF_SHIFTY",1, you're using the ,1, parameter for all the axes and of course a different object(?) re "DRF_SHIFTY" vs "SUMMARY_MEAS"

    Are they 2 different ways of getting the same data or is the data different?
    If so, my above question becomes a little different... ie how do you know what parameter number to use to get the X,Y or Z and if there are other possible parameters are they documented somewhere? they aren't next to the Data Type Name in my 2012 core manual.
    (note I'm using 2014, but keep using my 2012 pdf because I've got a lot of annotations in it).

    UPDATE: I tried both
    ASSIGN/BF1_X=GETTEXT("SUMMARY_MEAS",1,{FCF_IT14TOP})
    ASSIGN/V10=GETTEXT("DRF_SHIFTX",1,{FCF_IT14TOP})
    and get different results from them
    note,
    ASSIGN/V2=FCF_IT14TOP.X.MEAS
    which I could construct from the expression builder is the same number as
    ASSIGN/BF1_X=GETTEXT("SUMMARY_MEAS",1,{FCF_IT14TOP})
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  • Kevo,
    If your XactMeasure dimension has a label of "FCFLOC1" the following should pull the datum shift values for you:

    ASSIGN/V1=GETTEXT("DRF_SHIFTX",1,{FCFLOC1})
                ASSIGN/V2=GETTEXT("DRF_SHIFTY",1,{FCFLOC1})
                ASSIGN/V3=GETTEXT("DRF_SHIFTZ",1,{FCFLOC1})
                ASSIGN/V4=GETTEXT("DRF_ROTATIONX",1,{FCFLOC1})
                ASSIGN/V5=GETTEXT("DRF_ROTATIONY",1,{FCFLOC1})
                ASSIGN/V6=GETTEXT("DRF_ROTATIONZ",1,{FCFLOC1})
    


    Just substitute your dimension label for "FCFLOC1" and you should be set. The code segment you were looking at dealt with locational coordinates of the FCF features.


    Thanks so much! Not that I want to delve too deeply into this... But I did find DRF_SHIFTY and DRF_ROTATIONX in the manual when I searched for those specific terms. but I don't see anywhere in the manual where it refers to the ,1, parameter. is that just a 1=yes or 0=no sort of switch that a 'professional' vb guy would know about?

    <edit>
    Hey, I just noticed that your first post said to get the shifted XYZ's with this code:
                ASSIGN/BF1_X=GETTEXT("SUMMARY_MEAS",1,{FCFLOC1})
                ASSIGN/BF1_Y=GETTEXT("SUMMARY_MEAS",2,{FCFLOC1})
                ASSIGN/BF1_Z=GETTEXT("SUMMARY_MEAS",3,{FCFLOC1})
    

    In that, I figured the shifted Y was the ,2, parameter
    but in the "DRF_SHIFTY",1, you're using the ,1, parameter for all the axes and of course a different object(?) re "DRF_SHIFTY" vs "SUMMARY_MEAS"

    Are they 2 different ways of getting the same data or is the data different?
    If so, my above question becomes a little different... ie how do you know what parameter number to use to get the X,Y or Z and if there are other possible parameters are they documented somewhere? they aren't next to the Data Type Name in my 2012 core manual.
    (note I'm using 2014, but keep using my 2012 pdf because I've got a lot of annotations in it).

    UPDATE: I tried both
    ASSIGN/BF1_X=GETTEXT("SUMMARY_MEAS",1,{FCF_IT14TOP})
    ASSIGN/V10=GETTEXT("DRF_SHIFTX",1,{FCF_IT14TOP})
    and get different results from them
    note,
    ASSIGN/V2=FCF_IT14TOP.X.MEAS
    which I could construct from the expression builder is the same number as
    ASSIGN/BF1_X=GETTEXT("SUMMARY_MEAS",1,{FCF_IT14TOP})
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