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Brian Gudauskas
Guys, I’ve been watching with interest and quietly for some time since I was alerted to some recent issues.

Since then I’ve seen many people helping, and being constructive, thank you, you know who you are.

However I’ve seen a small minority posting:

1. Pornography and NSFW posts
2. Admin – baiting
3. Rants, with no purpose other than to incite
4. Ridicule bordering on bullying

Are we going to let a couple of people ruin this for everyone? We put this forum here for us all to discuss the software, to help each other, not for a few people to commandeer for the personal entertainment. There are other places to put NSFW posts and rants, we should be professional on this forum.

We have to protect new users from abuse. We have to enforce the rules for everyone. Criticism is allowed and encouraged (prefer constructive criticism), but flagrant violation of the rules, and bullying of anyone cannot be tolerated. I have been a staunch defender of our open forum for years. Other OEM forums are closed, or non-existent, what does that say about the freedom that is offered here? Let’s respect our privileges or risk them being taken away.

If you want to respond to my plea for professionalism with some remarks about how the software has let you down, has personally screwed you out of house and home, mugged you and your brother, whatever, please don’t. The forum is for discussion, not for logging bugs. If you feel so strongly about the software (which is good), please try to actually do something constructive about the issue through official channels. Here is how.

1. First contact technical support, and report the problem. 800-343-7933. This works, I have followed many customers through the system. YES, I believe like all technical support that it is far from perfect, but at least start here so you can get your call logged and have something to whine to me about. If you don’t like to call, use this form: http://hexagonmetrology.us/contact-us.
2. If you do not receive the timely response you desire, call your sales representative. They will help.
3. If all these fail for a specific issue you have, PM me telling me what happened in technical support, who your sales rep is, and if you entered a contact request. I will follow up with each and make sure the system is working for you and for everyone. Allow me time, I do have a day job, and I'm just one person.
4. If after all that, you still don't like the response you are getting, fill out the customer survey here with your experiences: http://hexagonmetrology.us/contact-us/customer-satisfaction-survey . It is logged and reviewed.

Thanks for your professionalism in advance, please help me make this a better place.
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  • Brian,
    Thanks for taking the time to answer at least some of the concerns.
    I know that some posts and threads disappeared. There were at least 3 threads that referenced PC-DMIS 2010 and bugs. Those were deleted, even if you can't find evidence of that. Perhaps that information has been hidden from you, or you are hiding something you don't want us to know. I will never know.
     - I suspect the bug threads in question devolved as most of them will. If the thread had no valuable information, then it probably was deleted. I will look for them. No one here would hide anything, there are plenty of other PC-DMIS bug threads. Feel free to start more, just keep it constructive. If the whole thread goes to crap, I would nuke it too. It has to be useful to users of the software.

    I can't lie, I have posted some smartaleked comments at some of the newbies. Sadly, there appears to be a new crop of "newbie programmers" every few months. Many of them demand that we help them. I often wonder if this shows the quality (or lack of quality) within the training. Perhaps the forum is a good benchmark of the training.
     I don't think the forum is a good benchmark of anything, as it is often a vocal minority that speaks up. I can't tell you how many PM's I got supporting my professionalism stance compared to the number of postings. It seems drama is more fun (not specifically talking about you John, just in general). Training is never enough, only real world experience makes you good. Good natured fun with newbies with a sense of humor is expected, we don't expect you guys to support them, but it's nice to be a part of a community. That's what this is about. All of us were newbies at some point in our lives.

    Some of my comments have been edited. I've also seen my Arrogant Bast@rd Ale label deleted from posts.
    But NO comment or warning was made. As Eric said, this "policing" was a sudden, heavy handed reaction. Perhaps warnings would have helped?
     I agree in general with warnings. However I can also commiserate with admin (especially as I am one now). It takes time to moderate. I'd love to have more moderators to help, I'll be looking for vict... I mean volunteers for this task soon. We'll try to do better at warnings in the future.


    Thanks John, appreciate the feedback.
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  • Brian,
    Thanks for taking the time to answer at least some of the concerns.
    I know that some posts and threads disappeared. There were at least 3 threads that referenced PC-DMIS 2010 and bugs. Those were deleted, even if you can't find evidence of that. Perhaps that information has been hidden from you, or you are hiding something you don't want us to know. I will never know.
     - I suspect the bug threads in question devolved as most of them will. If the thread had no valuable information, then it probably was deleted. I will look for them. No one here would hide anything, there are plenty of other PC-DMIS bug threads. Feel free to start more, just keep it constructive. If the whole thread goes to crap, I would nuke it too. It has to be useful to users of the software.

    I can't lie, I have posted some smartaleked comments at some of the newbies. Sadly, there appears to be a new crop of "newbie programmers" every few months. Many of them demand that we help them. I often wonder if this shows the quality (or lack of quality) within the training. Perhaps the forum is a good benchmark of the training.
     I don't think the forum is a good benchmark of anything, as it is often a vocal minority that speaks up. I can't tell you how many PM's I got supporting my professionalism stance compared to the number of postings. It seems drama is more fun (not specifically talking about you John, just in general). Training is never enough, only real world experience makes you good. Good natured fun with newbies with a sense of humor is expected, we don't expect you guys to support them, but it's nice to be a part of a community. That's what this is about. All of us were newbies at some point in our lives.

    Some of my comments have been edited. I've also seen my Arrogant Bast@rd Ale label deleted from posts.
    But NO comment or warning was made. As Eric said, this "policing" was a sudden, heavy handed reaction. Perhaps warnings would have helped?
     I agree in general with warnings. However I can also commiserate with admin (especially as I am one now). It takes time to moderate. I'd love to have more moderators to help, I'll be looking for vict... I mean volunteers for this task soon. We'll try to do better at warnings in the future.


    Thanks John, appreciate the feedback.
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