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to be confident or not on a result...

I start this new thread because of another one which talk about the confidence on cmms.
It make me think about different side of this subject.
A friend of mine said, long time ago: "in metrology, the only thing that I'm certain is the existence of the uncertainties !"
This subject is as close to accuracy than it's to phylosophy !
When a part or a dimension is bad, who doesn't begin by re-measuring it ?
When a part or a dimension is good, who begins by re-measuring it ?
When a tech calibrates the cmm, he measures (ISO10360-2) 5 lengthes in 7 locations three times.
If you can, just take a look at a location measured with a Koba-step, by measuring all the steps.
If you choose the same lengthes than the tech ,you will find few deviations.
If you choose different lengthes than him, ou will see more important deviations.
In both cases, the cmm is generally "in the tol". but not at the same place !

What can I say as conclusion ?
Still be confident in your cmm, according just the right place to uncertainties, and don't talk about this to your boss, you avoid some questions Wink !

Ah !
It's friday, happy week-end !
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  • You forgot the operator and the environment (unless you include them in "method").


    I would say that method includes operator, and cmm includes environment, but only in a metrology room, not in a workshop.


    That seems to be the metrologist view... I would lean a bit more in the designer's favour, and say 78%...
    (as long as we are allowed to take numbers out of the air)
    :-)


    I grant you 75%, it's 3/4 of the way !
    Just a thought about this value, look at the number of metrologists in a GD&T classe, and the number of designers.
    Compare those numbers to the total number of metrologists ans designers, you should be convinced that a metrologist has often a better level than a designer !!!!!
    Here in schools, designers learn how to draw a 3d part, but they rarely learn how to dimension it.
    I'm surprised to see a lot of L±t on a blue print, where a localization would do the job, and simplify the measurement (for older versions).
  • We actually manage to induce [some] companies to send their designers to our GD&T courses. But they are few, and far between...
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