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IATF / ISO 17025 Calibration

All you programmers who work in Automotive and/or are IATF certified, do you have Hexagon calibrate your CMMs to ISO 17025?

At last year's audit, we were dinged for not having the ANAB label on our CMM certs. In the past we just did the B89 or ISO 10360 (vision). Per the IATF standard 7.1.5.3.2 the certificate of calibration or test report shall include the mark of a national accreditation body. Hexagon only does this with an ISO 17025 calibration. Hexagon won't add the ANAB onto the certs unless they do an ISO 17025 calibration, even though they are ANAB certified.

This year we are adding this to our MyCare package and now Hexagon wants to charge an additional $2K for each CMM calibration.

How many of you ran into this or currently do this?
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  • "the certificate of calibration or test report shall include the mark of a national accreditation body" ---

    I am working with Hexagon right now to clarify this. Based on their lab scope if they do an ISO 10360 or B89 with Koba, that gets the ANAB accreditation on the cert.

    Am I correct on that?


    If they performed either of those tests on the appropriate machines per their lab scope, it should be. Look through the entire report. Sometimes they put the ANAB logo around where the technician signs it or such. The company that does our calibrations now has the logo on the last page with all the fine print and standard/methods callouts. I have seen certs from some places that simply call out their main Cert of Accreditation/Lab Scope on the cert report as reference.

    There are quite a few companies that have certs that do not meet IATF requirements. If that company is not IATF themselves, there is sometimes little that can be done. If you inform the auditor that Hexagon refuses to modify their report and that they are the only calibration option you have, the auditor has no choice but to accept it.... so long as you can prove that it is accredited just not stamped on the report. Possibly, the auditor is being too strict or interpreting it wrong. I've had that happen a few times and had to challenge findings a few times too.
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  • "the certificate of calibration or test report shall include the mark of a national accreditation body" ---

    I am working with Hexagon right now to clarify this. Based on their lab scope if they do an ISO 10360 or B89 with Koba, that gets the ANAB accreditation on the cert.

    Am I correct on that?


    If they performed either of those tests on the appropriate machines per their lab scope, it should be. Look through the entire report. Sometimes they put the ANAB logo around where the technician signs it or such. The company that does our calibrations now has the logo on the last page with all the fine print and standard/methods callouts. I have seen certs from some places that simply call out their main Cert of Accreditation/Lab Scope on the cert report as reference.

    There are quite a few companies that have certs that do not meet IATF requirements. If that company is not IATF themselves, there is sometimes little that can be done. If you inform the auditor that Hexagon refuses to modify their report and that they are the only calibration option you have, the auditor has no choice but to accept it.... so long as you can prove that it is accredited just not stamped on the report. Possibly, the auditor is being too strict or interpreting it wrong. I've had that happen a few times and had to challenge findings a few times too.
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