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Auto Wrist Angle not working

I am using auto cylinder on a hole on these parts I'm working on. Then I hit F9 to go back into the feature and select the "Auto Wrist", then click "OK", and it does nothing. The window that supposed to pop up and show suggested wrist angle isn't showing up. What am I doing wrong? It shouldn't have anything to do with the funky compound angle alignment that I'm using to measure the hole, should it?
  • As far as I know this should work (but sometimes returns incorrect angle, especially when negative "B" is required).
    Perhaps there's an F5 setting?
  • https://www.pcdmisforum.com/forum/pc-dmis-enterprise-metrology-software/pc-dmis-for-cmms/476899-auto-wrist-toggle-not-highlighted

    PATH--->QUICK PATH needs to be turned off. Not sure when I inadvertently turned it on, but now that it's off, my AUTO WRIST TOGGLE works!
  • I am using auto cylinder on a hole on these parts I'm working on. Then I hit F9 to go back into the feature and select the "Auto Wrist", then click "OK", and it does nothing. The window that supposed to pop up and show suggested wrist angle isn't showing up. What am I doing wrong? It shouldn't have anything to do with the funky compound angle alignment that I'm using to measure the hole, should it?


    It might just be the software version I'm running (2020 R1 SP13), but I often have the same problem. It won't calculate/suggest a different probe angle unless the current probe angle is more than 50 degrees or so different than the optimal angle for the feature being programmed.

    What I often end up doing is inserting a clearly wrong probe angle command, like tangent to a hole I want to measure, then use the auto feature dialog to create a circle and it will then suggest an optimal probe angle. When I click ok to use the suggested angle the clearly wrong probe angle command I inserted gets replaced/updated. It works, but it can be a pain if I have a lot of holes to measure on a highly contoured surface (every hole has a different vector).

    I have tried to look for some sort of setting to adjust this, but I haven't had any luck. On the 'Part/Machine' tab of the 'Setup Options dialog' window there is an option labeled 'Wrist warning delta'. I had hoped that making that setting smaller would help, but it doesn't seem apply to auto features in that manner (at least when programming offline - never played with it online).
  • https://www.pcdmisforum.com/forum/pc-dmis-enterprise-metrology-software/pc-dmis-for-cmms/476899-auto-wrist-toggle-not-highlighted

    PATH--->QUICK PATH needs to be turned off. Not sure when I inadvertently turned it on, but now that it's off, my AUTO WRIST TOGGLE works!


    How do I find "path"? Where can I find that to turn off quick path?
  • The auto wrist behaviour changed sometime around 2018. There are two settings editor keys that control this - UseNewAutoWristDialog & UseNewAutoWristLogic

    The new behaviour looks at whether the feature can be accessed with the current tip and, if it can, PC-DMIS will not suggest a new tip angle. This was done to avoid unnecessary tip changes when measuring groups of feature that, although at different angles, can all be accessed with the same tip angle. For example, a series of three planes at 20° to each other.

    If you want the old behaviour, set the settings editor key values to "False"
  • The auto wrist behaviour changed sometime around 2018. There are two settings editor keys that control this - UseNewAutoWristDialog & UseNewAutoWristLogic

    The new behaviour looks at whether the feature can be accessed with the current tip and, if it can, PC-DMIS will not suggest a new tip angle. This was done to avoid unnecessary tip changes when measuring groups of feature that, although at different angles, can all be accessed with the same tip angle. For example, a series of three planes at 20° to each other.

    If you want the old behaviour, set the settings editor key values to "False"


    Thanks Neil! I never would have found that on my own.

    I appreciate the intent of using the new logic to reduce the number of probe angles to calibrate and use, but I haven't had a lot of luck with it being correct when it comes to measuring holes. I changed the editor keys you mentioned, and it is now working great for my needs.

    , thanks for bringing this up!


  • how do i find "path"? Where can i find that to turn off quick path?


    n526196

    here it is


    as Neil mentioned if no angle is suggested then it probably thinks whatever angle you currently have loaded is sufficient.

    Attached Files
  • Does the auto wrist feature work only with CAD? I would like to make auto cones / cylinders with wrist changes @ -90, 0, 90 &180. I always have to teach the hits and wrist angles with the jog box. Gets to be a pita most of the time!
  • YES AUTO WRIST works with only AUTO FEATURES. Otherwise you have to define wrist angle yourself.