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Why DataPage?

InspectorJester
Hello!

I've never used DataPage, and we don't have a lot of SPC at our shop (but we use other tools to inspect the parts that are run on the machines with SPC, like a tallyrond)

Using the internal PC-DMIS reporter, while quirky, seems to do a good enough job. It's a mother to set up, but once it's done it looks alright.

So I'm curious as to what the benefit of DataPage is. As far as I understand, it's just a seperate reporting software made by Hex that does more or less the same stuff (with a few added enhancements of course). It seems like bloatware.

Anyone who uses DataPage care to tell me some pros? I'm always looking to improve my experience (if I can do my job easier, well, that's more programs in the same amount of time.)

I'm relatively new to PC-DMIS, so I want to try out everything.
I figure if this or that is better I might as well try and get used to it now instead of getting used to something else and eventually trying that anyway!

Also, what's the difference between regular and plus? I would imagine plus has more (and is more! $) but I'd like to know what actual users have to say about their personal experiences with the software.
While looking it up finds good results, I would imagine that a review by the people who wrote it might be a little biased...

Any help would be appreciated
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  • To be honest, I don't use MOST of the Datapage capabilities, I use 2 reports from Datapage, the STAT report and the raw data report. Datapage gathers the data, from EVERY PART we check. I use Excel 100% for all reporting. Set up the Excel file with the Stat report (for nominals & tolerances), then the data report to 'fill in' the Excel file.

    The Excel file then does ALL the statistical analysis, in/out, pass/fail, pictures and EVERYTHING. It makes the 'old school; inspection report (the old rtf style report), the raw data report, a summary report, a statistical report, point road map, part mark up (actual deviations displayed on the part where measured), EVERYTHING. But, without Datapage collecting all the check data, it would be a ton harder to make these reports. The Pcdmis-to-Excel function would require WAY TOO much work to 'automate' my process. As it is, after checking a study of parts, it takes, literally, less than 1 minute to get the data from Datapage and put it in the Excel file, which can then be sent to any customer, anyplace, and since Excel it pretty much universal, anyone can open it.

    Yeah, this is a long read, but this is a list of what that Excel file does:
    1) Road map of all check points (pretty picture)
    2) Mark-up of all deviations of checks (pretty picture)
    3) Range of all parts checked (pretty picture)
    4) Statistical analysis of the required SPC points (part of the pretty picture)
    5) Summary of statistical analysis (graph & textual)
    6) Summary of non-SPC points (textual)
    7) Raw data report (textual)
    8) CMM style report (textual)
    9) For the pretty pictures, you can select to show only ONE type of feature (or all features), edge point, surface point, holes, spc.
    10) For the pretty pictures you can select to show only OOT features
    11) For the pretty pictures, you can select to show car-body deviation letters (F/A, H/L, I/O)
    12) You can select to show hole SIZES or DEVIATIONS from nominal (kind of hard to tell if too small or too big unless you show just the deviation, but some want to know the size)

    And I am pretty sure I am missing some things, can't spend all day typing on a forum....
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  • To be honest, I don't use MOST of the Datapage capabilities, I use 2 reports from Datapage, the STAT report and the raw data report. Datapage gathers the data, from EVERY PART we check. I use Excel 100% for all reporting. Set up the Excel file with the Stat report (for nominals & tolerances), then the data report to 'fill in' the Excel file.

    The Excel file then does ALL the statistical analysis, in/out, pass/fail, pictures and EVERYTHING. It makes the 'old school; inspection report (the old rtf style report), the raw data report, a summary report, a statistical report, point road map, part mark up (actual deviations displayed on the part where measured), EVERYTHING. But, without Datapage collecting all the check data, it would be a ton harder to make these reports. The Pcdmis-to-Excel function would require WAY TOO much work to 'automate' my process. As it is, after checking a study of parts, it takes, literally, less than 1 minute to get the data from Datapage and put it in the Excel file, which can then be sent to any customer, anyplace, and since Excel it pretty much universal, anyone can open it.

    Yeah, this is a long read, but this is a list of what that Excel file does:
    1) Road map of all check points (pretty picture)
    2) Mark-up of all deviations of checks (pretty picture)
    3) Range of all parts checked (pretty picture)
    4) Statistical analysis of the required SPC points (part of the pretty picture)
    5) Summary of statistical analysis (graph & textual)
    6) Summary of non-SPC points (textual)
    7) Raw data report (textual)
    8) CMM style report (textual)
    9) For the pretty pictures, you can select to show only ONE type of feature (or all features), edge point, surface point, holes, spc.
    10) For the pretty pictures you can select to show only OOT features
    11) For the pretty pictures, you can select to show car-body deviation letters (F/A, H/L, I/O)
    12) You can select to show hole SIZES or DEVIATIONS from nominal (kind of hard to tell if too small or too big unless you show just the deviation, but some want to know the size)

    And I am pretty sure I am missing some things, can't spend all day typing on a forum....
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