Vaccine Conversation Today

I'm not getting into a war with you, Just like you said wearing a seatbelt is my choice, No, No it isn't, they made that a law, doesn't sound like a choice of my own. That was the point I was making. Same way with the shot, as it has saved lives,<<well supposedly, it has also screwed people up and has also killed quite of few because some have had bad reactions to the shot, let's not tell just half the story, I myself have 1 and only one true story that a guy I know crashed in a car and wasn't wearing a seat belt, hit a telephone pole, went through the windshield and walked away, The engine of the truck ended up in the drivers seat, which would have most likely crushed him or killed him. Now I'm not saying because of this one particular incident you should not wear a seatbelt, It just so happen it was in this guys favor, but he was lucky enough to go to court, because he was issued a seatbelt ticket. Doesn't sound like choice to me.

Driving is a privilege, not a right. If you choose to drive, you must obey the rules or pay the consequences. You cannot just drive as fast as you want either, there are speed limits. You can choose to follow those rules or pay the consequences. You can also choose to not use a motor vehicle at all and none of those rules apply to you. You cannot put on the shot when you go out and then take it off when you go home. You are comparing an irreversible medical procedure to something you can take on or off whenever you want. The law is generally worded that you must wear a seatbelt IF you are an occupant in a MOVING motor vehicle. If the vehicle is not moving, no seatbelt required. If you leave the vehicle, you don't have to have a seatbelt outside of the vehicle. Once you get the vaccine, it cannot be "put on" or "taken off" at your choosing, you always have it "on you". Comparing a removable safety device to a permanent medical procedure is comparing apples to oranges.

As stated above, I am not going to argue over where your feelings start and where the law should end. You can keep pounding that keyboard if you want to, that is your choice, but I am out. That is my choice.

There's a brainwashed statement. Driving is not a privilege. If driving was a Privilege, Then I wouldn't have to pay taxes for roads, I wouldn't have to buy my own vehicle. If I didn't have to pay for all that out of my own pocket, I pay to have stop signs or lights or speed signs, to make it safe for me and others, and so do you. Your drivers license is just an agreement to play by the rules because you're driving a loaded weapon, and after you blow it so many times, not follow the laws to make it safe. You lose the RIGHT to drive.

Show me the legal document that shows driving a motor vehicle is a right or tuck your tail between your legs and admit you are wrong.

I will even assist you: There are currently no state or federal rights for operation of a motor vehicle. There are federal court decisions that state that, if you are afforded the PRIVILAGE of operating a motor vehicle, you have the RIGHT to use publicly funded roads. There are currently 3 cases before the Supreme Court: Bernard v. Minnesota, Birchfield v. North Dakota, and Beylund v. Levi. Any of those 3 could result in a decision to make operating a motor vehicle a right instead of a privilege. Until then, driving does not fall under the Privileges and Immunities Clause of the Constitution, as ruled by previous Supreme Court rulings, and is therefore a privilege and not a right.

The only reason why it's not stated as a right is because there was no such thing as a motor vehicle when the constitution was written, take for instances the right to bear arms is a right, but if you go out and start killing people then you lose that right, the only reason why they use privilege is that they would have to change the constitution. Plus it can give them power over the people. Privilege is something given to you, a right is something you have, No one gave me roads, I helped pay for them, no one gave my vehicle, I paid for that too. You still haven't answered my question, How do I get the privilege to drive a Lamborghini, if I can't afford one?

Women didn't have the right to vote when the constitution was written. Presidents could serve indefinitely, as long as they were reelected, when the constitution was written. It was legal to own slaves when the constitution was written. The 1st amendment covers television and the internet and neither of them were around when the constitution was written. It was written as a living document, to allow for interpretation as society advanced. It was interpreted, by the Supreme Court, many decades ago that operating a motor vehicle is a privilege, not a right. I'm not sure where you are going with the 2nd amendment argument. If you are convicted of ******, you lose most of your rights but, you can get them all back upon rehabilitation even your gun rights in most states. If I wasn't at work, I could pull up case laws and court precedents for this as well.

To answer your ludicrous question: If you want to drive a Lambo but can't afford one, save up, steal it, or borrow one.

My turn: When are you finally going to tuck your tail between your legs and admit you are wrong?

If the facts are on your side, pound the facts. If the law is on your side, pound the law. If neither the facts or the law are on your side, pound the keyboard. Keep pounding that keyboard Kirbster269!!!!!

No body ever said there wasn't alot wrong in the past, That's where the lawmakers over the years have picked and chooses what would favor them to keep there jobs. Just because you read something on ways lawyers manipulate words doesn't mean it's correct. Alot of innocent men and women went to prison and alot of them got away with mu_rder. When I'm wrong I'll put my tail between my legs and say so. and maybe by that time you finally get your head out of your.... well you know where. you can see it better than me. I can only tell you from experience not from papers written from others.