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HR-R3 changer rack calibration

Has anyone had any experience with calibrating the HR-R changer racks? I have gone through the steps listed out in the help files, all the way until it asks to disconnect the kinematic joint adapter, and then take a hit on the datum sphere that is on the rack itself. 

my problem now is that when I remove the adapter, the jog box wont let me move the CMM, and only sometimes I can get it to move in only 1 direction. I lined up the CMM manually, and then was able to move with the jogbox down onto the sphere, but the CMM does not take a "hit", I assume because there is no probe or sensor on to know that it is taking a hit. 

These are the only instructions i'm finding currently, and am at a loss... For now I can change the adapters manually, but I'd like to figure this out to save time and effort in the future. Thanks in advance for any help!

  • The upside down probe on the rack should register the hit.  Sounds like it might not be configured correctly.

    From memory there's either a USB or Serial type connection, do you know what yours is?

  • I don't know for sure, currently. I will have to check on that tomorrow.

    This is a new workplace for me, so I'll have to track down hardware info and manuals to check.

  • So, quick update. I have two machines here, and both have this rack. I was able to calibrate the rack on the Global S, but still having trouble with the Global advantage. I still need to look into the connection type. 

    Another question to add is, how to use this rack? It seems we are just using it to store the different TKJ adapters with no tips on them. all tips are on their own tip changer racks.

    So if I need to switch from say our TP20 module, to the X1H module, what would that look like? I assume it would have to go drop off tip, then go to the HR-R rack, to switch out modules, and then go pick up the correct tip. But I am unsure how that works programmatically.

  • Check out these help files:

    Defining Probe Changers (hexagonmi.com)

    Calibrating the TESASTAR-R / HR-R Probe Changer (hexagonmi.com)

    If when calibrating the rack and you get to the point where you take a hit with the probe removed on the TKJ joint with the touch probe ontop of the mount and the calibration program just sits their idle, it is because the communication settings are not set up correctly. Check your serial port details for example.

  • Does anyone else have experience with these racks? I was able to calibrate and setup on one of our machines, and it changed probe heads once, and now will not change again. So we are still having to swap out probes manually. I'm still unsure how to use this changer in programs, and have not found any resources on this. 

    We have a few programs that need to use different heads and not have to stop and recalibrate after manual probe module change.

    Thanks

  • We have a rack similar to this one, it came with the Laser Scanner. It has a Sphere at the top you calibrate with after removing the HA-TM-31 that looks like a tiny needle. And you take hits for calibrating the rack between the slots or something. It's been a while since I had to calibrate it from 0. But I am familiar. What do you need help with? You need to assign probes to the slots in the rack in PC-DMIS like other probe changers.

  • So I have gone through the calibration of the rack, so the machine knows where everything is. What i'm needing to figure out now, is how to have CMM drop of tip in OTHER rack, and then drop of the TKJ module in the HR_R, then pick up a different TKJ module, and then go pick up next tip from other rack. I'm just unsure how this works program wise. 

    currently, in the HR-R, there are no tips on any of the modules, just the modules themselves, as we use many different tips that are stored in their own racks.

  • So what it sounds like to me is you need to do multiple load probe commands if I have these actions down below right. Please correct me if I am wrong

    1. Remove Tip

    2. Remove Module

    3. Pick up Different Module

    4. Pick up next tip

    You may want an Unload Tip Command like in this link here

    https://docs.hexagonmi.com/pcdmis/2019.1/en/helpcenter/mergedProjects/core/06_pref_topics/To_Drop_off_a_Probe_without_Picking_Up_a_New_Probe.htm

    Both unload commands do not get put into slots

    LOADPROBE/UnloadTip 

    LOADPROBE/UnloadModule

    LOADPROBE/NextModule

    LOADPROBE/NextTip

  • Yeah, you have the steps that I'm wanting to take correct! And the resource there seems like that may help accomplish this task, although, it sounds like I would have to do this for every single program that we use? 

    This could prove to be tedious and would have to be changed as we go, since depending on the program that was ran before may or may not use the same module. so then we would have to dynamically change load probe commands as we are running just to have things work. 

    Is there not a different way that PC-dmis senses the module that it needs for a specific probe build? For example if I were to be using TP20 module, with 4X50mm tip,

    and then need to switch to the X1H module, with 8X100mm tip, would PC-DMIS not recognize that it needs to drop the tip off, then switch modules, then pick up the new tip?

  • Oh yes, if you mean like for example you are using that TP20 with the 4x50mm, then you wanted to switch to the X1H, it would drop off the tip from the TP20 automatically, then it would go to the other rack with the turnkey lock and disengage that module, and swap it out for you. I was thinking you were switching your HA-TM-31 modules repeatedly. My understanding was a little off there. We were told with that type of rack to leave slot 1 open for module swapping when using the laser scanner. I do not have a X1H module, so I do not know how smart it gets when changing to that module, and then picking up those disc probes for it. 

    I am not at work so I don't know my rack settings but if you don't get it by tomorrow, I can share with you how ours is setup

    My usage was when changing to HP-L-10.10 laser scanner, it dropped off the TP20, unlocked and removed the module, then attached the laser scanners module directly. There is no tip step for me with the laser